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Tbolt

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352 days ago

Hello all
First time posting here and need a bit of advice on a rusty Stanley no 7 plane that I acquired. The problem I’m having is nearly all the screws are rusted tight and I have been unable to break the free. Any advice on a product to use or technique would be deeply appreciated.

-- Fumbling and Bumbling Woodworking Todd


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Bang

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#1 posted 352 days ago

A product called “Blaster” and a few light taps from a small hammer. Just follow the instructions on the can. This stuff has never failed me.

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Tugboater78

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#2 posted 352 days ago

Pb blaster and or wd40, let it soak in and around for a bit. Like bang said lightly tap with hammer. Dont try to force with scrwdriver, be patient.

-- Justin - the tugboat woodworker - " nothing changed me like the first shnick from a well sharpened, decent hand plane"

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Handtooler

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#3 posted 352 days ago

Bang and Tugboater, This is really great Information. Lowe’s has two different types, Pebetrating Catalyst and Garage Door Lubricant. I’m guessing you’re referring to the catalyst??

-- Russell Pitner Hixson, TN 37343 bassboy40@msn.com

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Don W

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#4 posted 352 days ago

After soaking in the penetrating oil, make sure you have the biggest screw driver that fits the screws well. Give them a few good solid taps with a large punch first to help break them loose.

it sometimes helps to tap the screw driver as you turn it. This works best if you have help.

if all else fails, heat them with a torch and repeat the turning-tapping.

-- There is nothing like the sound of a well tuned hand plane. - http://timetestedtools.wordpress.com (timetestedtools at hotmail dot c0m)

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MrFid

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#5 posted 352 days ago

Agree with all other commenters here. PB Blaster is some sort of miracle liquid. How do you plan on restoring the plane? If you’re using electrolysis to remove rust from the plane, and nothing else is working to unscrew the bolts, you could try an electrolysis bath first. Not sure how well it would work but it might loosen them up a bit. Welcome to LJs by the way.

-- Bailey F - Eastern Mass.

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#6 posted 352 days ago

Technique advise is one of patience, do no damage.

Electrolysis, PB Blaster, WD, etc. will all work given time. Even a bit of heat applied by torch can get things moving via the expand / contract method. Just don’t hurry things along and risk damaging the plane. It’s a pain to move into the ‘need parts’ realm of plane restoration.

Good luck!

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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Tbolt

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#7 posted 352 days ago

Thanks all for the advice. I have PB Blaster and will give it a good shot again and then break out the punches and hammer and give that a shot.

The rest of the plane is relatively free of rust, I’ll have to see what the frog looks like once I loosen up the screws. I’ll have to restore the tote, it has a crack in the middle and was badly repaired in the past. I’m in the process of milling a new tote and turning a new front handle out of Rosewood. The japanning is nearly all gone, so I’ll need to redo that also. A little sharpening of the iron and flattening of the chipbreaker and it should be good to go.

Thanks again all !!!

-- Fumbling and Bumbling Woodworking Todd

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Don W

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#8 posted 352 days ago

here is some restore help

And remember when you break out the hammer and punch, its cast, so you can break it.

-- There is nothing like the sound of a well tuned hand plane. - http://timetestedtools.wordpress.com (timetestedtools at hotmail dot c0m)

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Deycart

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#9 posted 352 days ago

I have some spare frog screws if you manage to mangle one or two. The washers are a normal #12 washer.

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Tbolt

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#10 posted 352 days ago

Short update

I have been able to get 2 of 3 screws off by using PB Blaster and the punch and hammer method. One more to go on the frog and I’ll have it all disassembled, it is hanging tough though.

Thanks all for the advice

-- Fumbling and Bumbling Woodworking Todd

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Don W

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#11 posted 352 days ago

there are only 2 screws that hold the frog on. What other screws are you having trouble with?

-- There is nothing like the sound of a well tuned hand plane. - http://timetestedtools.wordpress.com (timetestedtools at hotmail dot c0m)

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Tbolt

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#12 posted 352 days ago

The screw holding the lever cap was rusted in place. It needed to come off, the cap was very loose.

-- Fumbling and Bumbling Woodworking Todd

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Tbolt

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#13 posted 352 days ago

VICTORY !!! The last screw has finally admitted defeat and has surrendered to my fumbling and bumbling.

The frog is a bit cruddy and is resting comfortably in a bath of Evapo rust, along with various other pieces of the plane.

The only damage sustained was to my pride and a couple of my knuckles.

No vintage hand tools where injured during this production !

-- Fumbling and Bumbling Woodworking Todd

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fumehappy

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#14 posted 352 days ago

got some pics? You got me curious!
Congrats on the successful disassembly.

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Tugboater78

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#15 posted 352 days ago

Good deal.. be sure to clean out those holes and bolts threads unleas u wanna retap. Sounds like it was a PitA

-- Justin - the tugboat woodworker - " nothing changed me like the first shnick from a well sharpened, decent hand plane"

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