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Forum topic by Scomel Basses posted 04-28-2013 10:49 PM 853 views 0 times favorited 15 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Scomel Basses

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04-28-2013 10:49 PM

I’m getting ready to buy a nailer kit or will perhaps go with separates. For a kit I’m looking at the Dewalt kit that can be bought for $289 on Amazon or the new Porter Cable kit that can be bought for $299. The Dewalt features 2 guns and the PC has 3. I’ve also considered getting the Makita MAC700 compressore and then picking up a couple decent guns. My intended uses are trim work and such, no framing or anything heavy duty. I mostly want an 18ga brad nailer and a 23ga pin nailer. If anybody haas any recommendations or comments I would greatly appreciate them.


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teejk

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#1 posted 04-28-2013 11:34 PM

I assume that both include a 16ga and an 18ga. What is the third gun in the PC kit? Stapler perhaps?

Realize that Dewalt and PC are part of the same family and my guess is that you’ll find no differences in the guns or the compressors.

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kdc68

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#2 posted 04-28-2013 11:45 PM

Best to my knowledge the PC combo kit comes with 16ga Finish Nailer, 18ga Brad Nailer, and 18ga 1/4” Crown Stapler….The 23ga Pin Nailer may have to be purchased separetely….. Not sure about the Dewalt….

-- Measure "at least" twice and cut once

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teejk

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#3 posted 04-28-2013 11:55 PM

Never seen a kit yet that included the pin-nailer. They are relatively new and still command a huge premium on a “stand alone” basis. Nothing wrong with the stapler though. Some stuff I do I wished I had one (e.g. birdhouses that have a thin wood shingled roof).

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derosa

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#4 posted 04-29-2013 12:53 AM

Only real advice I have is make sure whatever you get isn’t oilless, compressors that use oil are a lot quieter in my experience.

-- --Rev. Russ in NY-- A posse ad esse

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Scomel Basses

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#5 posted 04-29-2013 01:00 AM

I’m ok with buying the pin nailer separate, I’ve planned on it as I don’t believe the kits include it. I’m not bothered by noise either on a compressor so oiless is OK. Any more thoughts?

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teejk

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#6 posted 04-29-2013 01:22 AM

derosa…the kits he is looking at all use the “pancake” compressor (oil less). Compressor is likely the same other than color. After PC was acquired by B&D, on many tools the Dewalt yellow has replaced the PC gray and the PC tools have been moved to the “bargain” category. I don’t think that is the case with their nailers but if they provide the model numbers of the guns it would be easy enough to check. If I’m right it comes down to paying $10 for a stapler (again it depends on what you plan to do…a brad or nail on thin stock is worthless but a staple would work).

All that said, I have to mention whether you have a color preference (I think that’s what it comes down to). 18ga brads and 16ga nails are universal across any brand I have seen so nothing to worry about there.

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#7 posted 04-29-2013 01:48 AM

Wow, if I could spend your money, I would go with a good rol-aire compressor, one mounted on wheels for easier mobility and one with at least 4 cfm output, then I would get a 2” 18g nailer, either senco or dewalt, then I would look for a senco 15g slant track and adventually grab a staple gun, probably senco. Life would be just fine after those purchases, even if they left me broke. :-)

I own 3 senco guns (15g slant, 18g nail and 18g stapler), 1 dewalt 18g and one hitatchi 15g. The senco is the best built we own.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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MT_Stringer

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#8 posted 04-29-2013 01:59 AM

I have the Porter Cable pancake compressor. It has worked well for me for the last several years,

I have several nailers and staplers including Bostitch 18 ga brad nailer and 1/4 inch stapler. Also, Harbor freight framing nailer, 15 gauge finish nailer and 23 ga. pin nailer.

I guess it depends on what your favorite is or maybe how the nailers/staplers feel in your hands.

Note: I am a hobbyist and retired so I may not use my equipment as much as someone who does the work for a living. However, I do shoot a lot of staples building my coolers ...all nine of them. I staple the boards to the inside of the panels (30 per cooler), 8 per board.

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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derosa

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#9 posted 04-29-2013 02:06 AM

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-3-Gal-Portable-Electric-Air-Compressor-with-9-Piece-Accessory-Kit-and-25-ft-Coil-Hose-L13HPD/202868804?N=rdZc2fhZrd#.UX3Tesqpd5w
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-4-Pieces-Finishing-Trim-Nailer-Combo-Kit-HDU4PTK/202895203?N=rdZc2fhZrd#.UX3UYsqpd5w

Just over 300.00 combined giving you 16, 18, and 23 gauge nails. Compressor isn’t a pancake so the weight is a little more, about 10 extra lbs but still easy to carry. I’ll be buying one to work on my house with since someone stole the last one, had that one for 6-7 years. It was so much better then the dewalt I owned that I gave the dewalt to my parents and kept the husky.

-- --Rev. Russ in NY-- A posse ad esse

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Shawn Masterson

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#10 posted 04-29-2013 02:31 AM

be careful with compressors like the Husky posted above they have a tenancy to be top heavy and tip over.
oil less compressors are trash imo. I have burned up many of them(4 at minimum ). and just fair warning the
“dewalt by emglo” are not emglo compressors. Dewalt bought out the emglo name and out sourced the pumps. Emglo is now made under the Jenny name.

as for nailers I have rebuilt the same PC 16 Ga for a friend 3 times. I have mostly Bostich nailers with the exception of a PC 15 Ga I got for $15 at a sale because it needed a trigger seal.

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Scomel Basses

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#11 posted 04-29-2013 04:05 AM

Apparently the current 3PAK Porter Cable is offering has only been available since October of 2012. According to the specs the compressor is new and is supposed to be much quieter. The Makita MAC700 which is a nice compressor and known to be quiet has an 80db spec whereas the new PC is spec’d at 78db’s. The PC is looking like a good buy. I would still need to pick up a pin nailer but may go with a Harbor Freight one. My friend has one and swears by it. I have a coupon for it and can get it for $15.99. If it sucks…at that price, oh well. That said, I’m still very open to opinions and suggestions.

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#12 posted 04-29-2013 05:29 PM

I would definitely recommend you go with separate tools, not a kit. To me the most important thing to consider is the compressor. Stay away from the oil-less ”pancake” compressors. The noise will drive you out of the house. Get an oil lubed pump. Makita and Senco make small “hot dog” compressors that will run staplers and 16/18 ga nailers.

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JayT

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#13 posted 04-29-2013 06:29 PM

the compressor is new and is supposed to be much quieter. . . . the new PC is spec’d at 78db’s

I would strongly question this—PC rated the previous 6 gallon pancake at 82db’s, but mine, and every other I have heard, is very loud. There is no way it could achieve a rating that close to the Makita under identical circumstances. Now, the little 1 gallon C1010 and equivalent DeWalt D55141 are very quiet and easily capable of running finish nailers, if you wanted to go that route.

-- "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." Alexis de Tocqueville, 1835

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Scomel Basses

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#14 posted 04-29-2013 08:34 PM

I’m now considering the Senco 1010 and the Rolair JC10. The JC10 looks to be a great tool but twice the price of the Senco. I really hate making decisions about equipment. Clearly I’m not very good at it.

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waho6o9

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#15 posted 04-29-2013 08:46 PM

Paslode trim nailers are worthy of a look. I love not having an air hose, compressor,
etc, to worry about. For light work there’s nothing better IMHO.

The batteries last a long time and the fuel cartridges are effective as well.

After purchasing the Paslode trim and framing nailers, I can’t remember using
my Senco and Hitachi air lined nailers.
All mentioned nailers are/were well used and not abused and are still operational.
Money well spent.

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