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TomB19

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460 days ago

I picked up a Powermatic PM1300TX-CK a few weeks ago and I’ve come to discover it will not run on a 110v/15A circuit. Powermatic recommends 30A if run on 110v.

If I had 30A, I should be able to drive a 3hp extractor.

Has anyone successfully run this extractor on 110v/20A? My shop is wired with 12Ga wire so 20A would be relatively easy.

My table saw is 3hp and it is happy to run on 220v/15A. If I had known I would require another 220v circuit in the shop, I would have gone for a larger extractor.

I’m also considering going with a smaller impeller as a temporary work-around.


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Milo

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#1 posted 460 days ago

Hmm. Tom, I’ve been studying electrical issues lately. It’s not TOO hard (or terribly expensive) to put 30amp breaker in and run a line. What is your shop set up? How far is your extractor from the fuse box? How hard would it be to run wire and install a new recepticle?

I know I’d want to go with the manufacturers specificiations if I could.

Good luck!

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Cosmicsniper

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#2 posted 460 days ago

Isn’t the PM1300 less than 2hp? If so, there should be zero issue with running on a 20a circuit. Since you already have 12ga wire, just put in a 20a breaker. It will need to be on its own circuit, however.

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#3 posted 460 days ago

Why are you trying to circumvent using a 30A breaker?

12AWG CU is allowed for 30 amps if it’s Type TBS, SA, SIS, FEP, FEPB, MI, RHH, RHW-2, THHN, THHW, THW-2, THWN-2, USE-2, XHH, XHHW, XHHW-2, or ZW-2

You should be fine.

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TomB19

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#4 posted 460 days ago

Thanks for the comments.

I don’t know if I can run 30A on 12Ga in my area. I’m not an electrician so I need to do everything by the book because they scrutinize homeowner permits pretty close. The run length is about 30’.

The point here is that if I had spare of positions, I’d have gone with a 220v solution. The panel is full so this is going to be expensive.

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PurpLev

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#5 posted 460 days ago

just put it on it’s own 20A circuit- change one of the 15A to 20A breaker – BUT , make sure your area permits doing so on a 12 gauge wires.

1 3/4HP motor should run OK on 20amp

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Loren

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#6 posted 460 days ago

Do you know about duplex breakers? That’s what I use.

Two 20 amp duplex breakers can run 2 220v lines, 1 220v
line and 2 110v lines, or 4 110v lines.

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TomB19

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#7 posted 460 days ago

Thanks, Loren. Somebody has replaced every 15A single position breaker with a duplex breaker.

My electrical system needs upgrading. It’s just a matter of finding a spare several thousand. lol!

I’m going to try to run it on a 110v/20A. If that doesn’t work, I’ll swap a smaller impeller.

Thanks for the help. :)

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toolie

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#8 posted 460 days ago

I’m going to try to run it on a 110v/20A.

or buy a book about electrical wiring and install a sub panel as i did. if the main panel has a single main breaker, once the main breaker is de-energized, it’s kind of hard to get hurt inside the panel until the main breaker is re-energized. adding a 60-100A subpanel shouldn’t be more than a thousand, on the high side. parts would amount to ~ $200.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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TomB19

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#9 posted 449 days ago

OK. I had an electrician in to upgrade my wiring. First, he installed a 20A circuit. That didn’t work. It came up to speed about 1 time out of 4 and then only if the intake was choked right off. It’s now on a 110V/30A circuit and working fine, so far.

I thought a shop vac was fine, and I still do, but a shop vac simply isn’t up to some of the larger jobs. The Powermatic is a monster. I’ve been in other shops that have a 1.5hp collector and they don’t seem anything like this one. Either this collector is under-rated or the cheap clone collectors are over rated. The PM1300TX-CK can have a couple of four inch gates open and still have plenty of power to run a floor sweep.

Here’s something you’re never going to hear anyone else say. If I was doing it again, I would have a harbor freight collector with the 13” wok mod. It would provide all the dust collection I need. This Powermatic unit is overkill. I’d be scared to turn this one on with my dog in the shop for fear it would suck him into the vortex. lol!

Perhaps I will grow to appreciate the capacity in time. I’m certainly not knocking the capability of this unit. I just doubt I need it.

Dislcaimer: I do lots of construction carpentry and don’t worry about dust, with the exception of trying to keep interior finishes clean. I’ve had a workshop for decades and have never had a dust collector connected to a table saw before. As long as I don’t work with MDF, I don’t mind a small amount of dust in the air. If I were completely honest, the main reason I went for the collector is so I don’t have to shovel out the table saw on a regular basis.

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