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Forum topic by Peteyb posted 04-23-2013 08:18 PM 524 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Peteyb

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04-23-2013 08:18 PM

Here are a couple of photos of the second crib I have built, my wife said I did too good of a job on the first one that the second child need one of his own. The first one I built out of all red oak and stained it with a chestnut stain. This one is made out of hard maple and she wants me to stain it again all the chestnut again. I think that if I stained all of the slats the chestnut and left the rest alone it would really pop. My questions is at this point with it all being together will it be to difficult to just stain those areas? Then when I am finished with that what type of poly would I use to keep the natural maple color that is safe for children? Any help or words of wisdom are appreciated.

Thank you,

Pete


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MigWoodwork

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#1 posted 04-23-2013 08:57 PM

First of all, great job on the build, it looks awesome. I personally would use a water based finished. less voc but all finishes become safe after a period of time. To answer your question with staining some parts and not others. I would take off the pieces you dont want stained and than spray it. I would use some thing like 3m blue tape with edge lock protection, they do a good job of keeping paint and stain out, just make sure that the tape is firmly pressed against the would and you have no bubbles in the tape.

Looking forward to some pics after finishing.

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redSLED

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#2 posted 04-23-2013 11:02 PM

Yes, I think it would be way to much trouble trying to stain just the slats. AND you can’t be totally sure that if you did, the two-tone look would actually be awesome. So I wouldn’t stain at all, or stain the whole thing. Poly or water-based something else – personal preference.

As for taping off areas not to be stained, I’ve never had 100% success with this as the stain always creeps a bit along grain areas, going beneath the tape edges, so I can’t recommend doing this. Perhaps someone who has totally mastered this technique can chime in, or point us to a link/thread of ‘staining on taped off areas”.

-- Perfection is the difference between too much and not enough.

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OggieOglethorpe

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#3 posted 04-23-2013 11:12 PM

If I wanted to do what you are wanting to do…

- I’d seal the whole piece with shellac
- Next, I’d tape off the areas to remain light, maybe going as far as using a liquid masking film
- I’d spray a fast drying pigment stain, like Behlen or Mohawk, on the areas to be colored
- After drying, I’d remove the tape / film, then clear coat the entire item. If I were using an oil varnish, I’d seal the stained areas with dewaxed shellac, before moving the masking, to prevent the varnish from moving the stain. Any stain bleed could be removed with solvent, as the shellac acts as a barrier.

I would not do this with common home center or paint store stains. It’s very difficult to prevent home center stains from migrating, they dry way too slow over a shellac barrier, and they blotch maple badly without a barrier.

If I were doing this before assembly, I’d probably dye the dark parts, apply a shellac to lock it down, assemble, and finish as one.

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AandCstyle

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#4 posted 04-24-2013 01:07 AM

Pete, maple is very prone to blotching as was already mentioned. I would use a 1# cut of shellac or Charles Neil’s preconditioner to minimize blotching. Personally, if she wants it all chestnut, I would make it all chestnut. :)

Whatever you do, test it on scrap ahead of time because the chestnut on maple will not be the same as the chestnut on red oak.

-- Art

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Cosmicsniper

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#5 posted 04-24-2013 01:54 AM

Just a quick note…if your wife expects the chestnut stain on the maple to match the chestnut stain on the red oak…well…it won’t be pretty.

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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Peteyb

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#6 posted 04-24-2013 02:18 AM

I am wanting to do something similar like this http://lumberjocks.com/projects/15574, but I want to flip it and do the slats.

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