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Forum topic by Don Broussard posted 04-19-2013 03:46 AM 1548 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Don Broussard

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04-19-2013 03:46 AM

Topic tags/keywords: planer parks planer

I am getting a 12” Parks Planer to refurb and use. The motor was a heavy, cast iron body General Electric 2HP, 1740 rpm, 120V single phase motor that gave up the ghost. Motor shop said they can’t get parts to repair the motor (internal wiring issues, but not just a rewind job), so I’m trying to find out what kind of motor was originally supplied with the Parks Planer. While I’d like to get an original motor, I won’t let not finding an original motor stop me from returning the planer to service. Can someone help me with the original motor manufacturer? I’ve already looked on owwm.com and I didn’t find out that information there.

I’m shopping now for a replacement motor of current manufacture, and I’m seeing prices ranging from $300 – $800—big variations in price. I am also checking CL to see if I can find a motor off another tool like a table saw to use as the replacement. I’m also open to advice on a reliable replacement motors.

Thanks in advance for the comments and/or advice.

EDIT: The planer is a Model 97 with the cast iron stand. The motor is mounted below the planer and is belt driven to the planer pulley/s.

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!


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JustJoe

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#1 posted 04-19-2013 04:56 PM

The GE could have been original or it might have been a 3-phase motor. Unless you find someone with that exact planer in mint condition it will be hard to know although 1740 seems slow for a planer. It would be easier to just pick a new motor to match whatever specs you need. I’ve bought a few motors from surplus center. You’ll probably need to buy a new pulley for the motor too as frame sizes have changed over time.

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#2 posted 04-19-2013 05:50 PM

Ask on the OWWM.org forum.

People there will know.

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Don Broussard

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#3 posted 04-19-2013 06:00 PM

@JustJoe—The planer is belt-driven, so the pulley combination makes the speed change. I agree that I’ll probably need at least one new pulley, since the GE motor had a 1” output shaft and the potential replacement has a 7/8” shaft. New motors also have a different bolt pattern, shaft height—basically, everything is different and will have to have customized mounting.

@Loren—I visited the owwm forums last night. They had someone who asked a similar question before, and the feedback was that the GE could have been original. That vintage planer also had Peerless and a few other 224 frame motors.

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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Loren

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#4 posted 04-19-2013 06:06 PM

Planer was probably furnished without a motor, though
machinery dealers may have installed one to owner
spec. Back when that planer was new it was a
spendy machine and only a professional or sawmill
would have one.

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/618/1081.pdf

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Don Broussard

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#5 posted 04-19-2013 06:38 PM

@Loren—You are spot on with your observation about the sawmill. This planer came out of a lumber mill before its current owner acquired it. Also, the original parts list did not include the motor, so I’m pretty sure you’re right about it coming sans motor. You’re 2 for 2! I would really like to use that heavy 224 frame motor, but the motor shop told me this morning that it was a combination of the failure of the centrifugal switch and some internal wiring that is the problem, and parts are no longer available. Thanks for your comments.

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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dhazelton

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#6 posted 04-19-2013 06:47 PM

I would look for another motor shop and get their opinion. Those parts you need may not be available from their sources but they are probably sitting on a shelf somewhere. If you did the legwork maybe they’d put it together for you. Otherwise, start scouring CL and ebay.

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Don Broussard

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#7 posted 04-19-2013 07:01 PM

@dhazelton—I might just try that. I’m willing to do reasonable things if it helps me to keep that GE motor in service. I have been looking on CL and ebay for a replacement—no luck so far.

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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shipwright

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#8 posted 04-20-2013 12:05 AM

Great old planer.
Mine was a 16” x 12” as I remember and it had a 5 HP three phase motor.
Nothing would slow it down.
Does it look like this? (Ignore the operator, this was in the seventies when I was young and foolish.)

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CessnaPilotBarry

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#9 posted 04-20-2013 12:10 AM

Are you looking only online, or have you called local motor shops?

In my experience, this is one area where “offline” brick and mortar guys might be very helpful. A few years ago, I had issues with hot tub motors, and local guys were able to fix, and in some cases, provide me rebuilt motors, for far less money and trouble than dealing online.

It was kind of like looking for an auto mechanic. The good guys were not the guys with nice websites.

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Don Broussard

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#10 posted 04-20-2013 12:22 AM

In searching the owwm.org website’s forums, it looks like Brown-Brockmeyer’s B-Line, Holzer-Cabot and Master motors were mounted to 12” Parks planers. It also looks like they were from 1-1/2 to 3HP.

EDIT: Forgot to mention Leland/Leeland motors as well.

@Paul—That planer that Ringo is using is WAY bigger than the 12” Parks planer I’m talking about. Was this before you performed on Abbey Road?

@Barry—I’m looking at local motor shops. I’d actually prefer to buy locally—put my money to use in my local economy and save shipping. I’d also be able to get local service on the motor if needed.

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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Grandpa

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#11 posted 04-20-2013 03:16 AM

I see a large selction at the local farm supply stores (Tractor Supply etc). I would try to get a totally enclosed (TEFC) with a 1.15 rating. The totally enclosed fan cooled motors are used on grain augers and such.

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Don Broussard

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#12 posted 04-20-2013 03:31 AM

@Grandpa—I’ve been checking the local CL farm and garden section for the motor. Tractor Supply is a good idea too. I’ll add that to the list of resources. Thanks.

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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#13 posted 04-20-2013 03:43 AM

Good luck, I wish I had room for a piece of equipment like that

-- Norman

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