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Forum topic by sandhill posted 04-19-2013 01:05 AM 937 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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sandhill

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04-19-2013 01:05 AM

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Someone told me that there were wood planes at a place called “Minute man Mall” so I drove up the road to check it out and found this a wood plane a number 193 stamped on one end and what I assume is the manufacturers stamp. I spent about half hour poking around in each consignment booth then went to check out, OH I found a real nice saw about 20” long that is sharp as a razor and almost no set on the teeth. The fleam looks to be at about 15 degrees I’m pretty sure its a rip saw used for cutting dove tails but never saw one this big or closely resembled a regular hand saw. If I can remember I will pout an updated photo tomorrow or later tonight.
So back to the plane who knows about these and what they are called, maybe a little history on them? I have started to collect and want to get as much information as I have time to digest does anyone have a reading list to recommend?


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Loren

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#1 posted 04-19-2013 01:12 AM

Cock bead plane. Useful. I had 4 or 5 in different sizes. While
I never used them (sold them as a set), they are most useful
for reproduction furniture makers and fun to use in more
forgiving woods.

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#2 posted 04-19-2013 01:24 AM

I can’t read the logo in the pic. If you’re going to “collect” vs “use” then one book would be Pollak’s “AMerican Wooden Planes”. It’s got a few chapters on stuff like wedges and shapes but it is mostly a listing of just about everybody in the US that ever made wooden planes, what their logos look like, when they were in operation, a guestimate on rarity etc.
If you’re in an area where you get a lot of British planes, then the companion book would be Goodman’s “British Planemakers from1700” which has a lot of names, but not as much info as the Pollak book.

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#3 posted 04-19-2013 01:57 AM

Thanks Loren and Joe. I will see if I can find the book you recommended.

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lwllms

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#4 posted 04-19-2013 03:01 AM

It’s actually a side bead plane and the stamped number is a catalog number. Properly tuned yours should work in most woods. It looks to be middle pitch (55° bed angle). I can’t read the maker’s mark but it sure looks like the Union Factory mark. According to the 4th edition of A Guide to the Makers of American Wooden Planes Herman Chapin bought out his partner, Daniel Copeland in Copeland and Chapin in 1828 to establish the Union Factory plane making business. The business became H.Chapin & Sons in 1860. Ken Roberts’ Wooden Planes in 19th Century America Volume II is largely about H. Chapin’s plane making businesses. Colonial Williamsburg has possession of many of the tools used by the Chapin enterprises. It’s an interesting collection but isn’t on public display. I had a little time to examine some of the collection once but it’s not even cataloged at this point.

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Tim

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#5 posted 04-19-2013 03:03 AM

Joe nailed it on the books with collectors information. “The Wooden Plane: Its History, Form and Function” by Whelan is also highly recommended for information on wooden planes.

Shining a couple lamps on the item you’re taking a picture of and turning the flash off should help with glare. If you did that and still got glare it’s just about the lighting angles then. Might still have to play with focus a bit.

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#6 posted 04-19-2013 03:37 AM

Tim its just an old cheap Canon Power Shot A400 the flash was not on everything is auto. I have 1200 Watts of lighting so its a bit bright for photo taking but great for working. I suck at photography any way and don’t enjoy doing it.
Thanks for the book tips I will surely start picking them up. I like this.

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#7 posted 04-19-2013 01:26 PM

You must be proud of that drill. It’s safer on it’s side.

Toby

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sandhill

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#8 posted 04-19-2013 02:39 PM

Don’t want the ions to spill.

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#9 posted 04-19-2013 04:52 PM

Ok, if you have lots of light and it wasn’t a flash issue, try moving the camera a little ways away and using zoom. That should get you a nice picture. You may have been too close for the autofocus. If you don’t have a tripod, just set it on something to get the right angle and a steadier picture. Time delay can help avoid shaking from pressing the shutter too.

But throw in a picture of the saw too if you want info on that.

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#10 posted 04-20-2013 04:27 AM

Well here is the saw. No matter what I did the photo cam out like crap. I get better results from my iPhone.

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#11 posted 04-23-2013 12:40 AM

Looks like a panel saw, they can be pretty small. It does look like it’s got fleam so it’s a crosscut saw, as they often are. Handy to have a smaller hand saw that fits in a toolbox, etc.

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#12 posted 04-23-2013 12:48 AM

Thanks Tim. The camera is hosed. Evetthing comes out yellow and blue now. I am looking at a Sony Alpha NEX-F3

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