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Ben

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04-15-2013 10:57 PM

here’s the “cove and bead” rail and stile set from eagle america, used on pine with birch ply panel to mock up my cabinet doors.

the profile is obviously so tiny that it just looks like lines. it is 7/16” tall when maxed out. half of that is probably the top and bottom fillet. you have to squint to make out the cove and bead shape.

i dunno. i guess it looks OK.

but no way am i going to rely on a 3/8” long stub tenon to hold a 5/8” thick solid cherry panel.
going to use the cope cutter to dial in the tenon location, then cut long tenons and miter the profile.

thanks.


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cabmaker

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#1 posted 04-16-2013 12:27 AM

So tou have acquired a cove and bead set but your going to mitre the rail to stile joints ? You don’t trust the 3/8 stub to support a 5/8 panel ?

Just making sure I understand you correctly.

I think you’ll find that within that cope and stick joint you will probably have more glue surface than on the flat mitre, that is if your sticking is milled close to industry standards which would be 2 1/4 to 2 1/2.

It will be fine, use the cutters and enjoy em! JB

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#2 posted 04-16-2013 01:17 AM

thanks cabmaker.
to clarify, i was planning on mitering ONLY the profile, not the entire rail/stile.

you wouldn’t have a problem doing the cope and stick with 3/8” stub tenon on a high end kitchen in a customer’s house?
this is in my own house, but i’m making a huge investment and don’t want these doors falling apart ever.

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#3 posted 04-16-2013 01:26 AM

thanks james.
it’s really hard to believe looking at that tiny tenon that it would hold up. but this seems to be the consensus.
maybe if i make my stiles and rails wider, say 3”? a bit more traditional looking too perhaps?
so, more glue surface but then more weight dangling off the tenon.

thanks again.

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#4 posted 04-16-2013 03:16 AM

Ben, in your scenario, you will have more beef in the perimeter but you will also have more glue area. Its all relative. You stated your using cherry which I think is in the neighborhood of 4.75 lbs per bd.ft. Average cabinet door will consume 3 bd ft. If you do a 3 inch stick you will have a little bit less floating weight to deal with, but not enough to let that be your deciding factor. Go for it ! Trust it. If you never take a step you will be in the same spot. JB

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