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Forum topic by Dallas posted 04-15-2013 12:26 AM 1189 views 0 times favorited 25 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Dallas

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04-15-2013 12:26 AM

We went to the flea market today and I wandered looking for tools to rehab or use or just look at.

One place had a genuine HF small spot paint gun that he wanted $40 for. I figured I’d let him know you can buy them new for $16 and he said some words about my parentage that I can’t repeat here, no matter how much I may agree with him or not.

I found most of a Stanley/Bailey #3 plane with quite a bit of rust, a broken tote and the wrong front knob for $65…. I would have paid about $10 for it if the chip breaker and iron were any good but I couldn’t get it apart.

Another place I stopped was a ‘vintage’ tool place. Lot’s of old wore out Globe Master stuff, beat up screw drivers, unrecognizable pliers, and some really beat hammers.

Oh yeah, there was a draw knife also, It looked like a knock off Stanley from about the mid 40’s that someone tried to use like a Froe. It was beat so bad on the back side that I’ve seen cold chisels with less mushroom.
I asked the price on it and the guy looked me in the eye and said, ”$45.00”! I believe my mouth went slack and totally a-gape. I just shook my head, followed the wife to help her buy some plants, bought some leather for hinges on redeaux boxes and came home.

Seriously, I don’t mind dealing locally, in fact I would rather, but I seem to do much better on eBay anymore.

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!


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Monte Pittman

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#1 posted 04-15-2013 12:40 AM

Unfortunately I can’t afford to buy local. I don’t understand how I can ship it in and pay. 30%-50% less than local stores want.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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NiteWalker

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#2 posted 04-15-2013 01:39 AM

What monte said.
Prices for used tools on craigslist around here are not far off from retail.
Once in a while a deal comes around though, but not often.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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CharlieM1958

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#3 posted 04-15-2013 01:52 AM

I’m glad it’s not just me. I never find good deals locally either.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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Illinoiswoodworker

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#4 posted 04-15-2013 01:55 AM

Flea markets are just a bunch of over priced junk. Every once in a while you might luck into something good, but not often. IMHO

-- I love the smell of red oak in the morning..........

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ShaneA

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#5 posted 04-15-2013 02:03 AM

Sounds like the current pricing strategies are wide spread. Seems like just because one in the world is listed at that price, theirs must be worth that much too. No matter of the make, model or condition. Hey…a used Corvette selling for $20k, so by proxy means my 1983 rusted out Pinto must be worth at least $18,500 easily. Awesome.

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CharlieM1958

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#6 posted 04-15-2013 02:25 AM

Shane, a 1983 Pinto would be worth a ton of money since Ford stopped making them in 1980. :-)

But I did find a nice clean '78 you might be interested in.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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Dusty56

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#7 posted 04-15-2013 02:34 AM

Nice find , Charlie , and my favorite Pinto color to boot : ) LOL

-- I'm absolutely positive that I couldn't be more uncertain!

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ShaneA

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#8 posted 04-15-2013 02:36 AM

Yeah, I am no Pinto expert…it was just the junkiest car I could think of…no offense to current Pinto owners, of course.

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oldnovice

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#9 posted 04-15-2013 03:29 AM

I went to some small pawn shops in Montana some time ago to look some vintage tools and all I found was what appeared to me as “garage made” chisels made to look vintage and a wooden plane with a cracked sole/no iron for $200.

I think these places know about the uninformed buyers and are ready for them.

Going to local garage sales has so far only produced two items, neither vintage, one Craftsman lathe (got it for $25.01) and a flap sander in barely used condition. I found one Great Neck plane but I passed on that.

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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LittlePaw

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#10 posted 04-15-2013 03:52 AM

I also found local stores just can’t compete w/the Net especially when they offer “free shipping” on top of no tax! LOcal classified and craigs List is iffy at best. I chuckle a lot when a seller wants almost retail for their used stuff! CL has excellent finds from time to time. Do try pawn shops too – great buys when they’re motivated.

-- LittlePAW - The sweetest sound in my shop, next to Mozart, is what a hand plane makes slicing a ribbon.

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Greg..the Cajun Wood Artist

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#11 posted 04-15-2013 04:17 AM

I got a feeling that many flea markets and other places that sell old tools are getting brainwashed and living in a fantasy-price world because of the TV programs about pawn shops and pickers that place all the over priced numbers on stuff the find for television ratings.

-- Each step of every Wood Art project I design and build is considered my masterpieceā€¦ because I want the finished product to reflect the quality and creativeness of my work

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Tedstor

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#12 posted 04-15-2013 04:21 AM

I think there is a flip-side to be considered here as well.
People read wonderful tales from people on the internet that bought a #5 Stanley at a garage sale for $7. So these people begin scouring every garage sale, flea market, and antique store looking for a $7 Stanley too. Afterall, if “internet guy” paid $7, then that must be the fair market value. Anything more is a rip-off. And after spending countless hours of their time and multiple tanks of gas looking for said $7 plane, they come back to the internet and complain about how a local antique store tried rip them off by pricing a Stanley #5 at $40.
Personally, if I decide I want a Stanley #5 and a local or internet source has one in good shape, I just pay the $40. I’m not made of money, but a good tool will last virtually forever. Sadly, I will not. So I won’t waste my time haunting garage sales and flea markets in the hopes of landing the occasional bargain. And besides. Back when I did haunt the flea markets, I would typically come home with $20 worth of crap that I didn’t need and never use. In that regard, paying a premium is actually cheaper :)

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REO

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#13 posted 04-15-2013 05:20 AM

Vega! they were great sleepers! throw in a 350 and a slide and glide trany. change out the rear end a little suspension work and they were a real surprise!

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paratrooper34

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#14 posted 04-15-2013 10:41 AM

I steer clear of flea markets completely. Last ones I have been to had a couple of antique tool vendors and their prices were very far away from reality. It makes me wonder how the hell those guys can justify the rent for their spaces. I would go there months apart and they would still have the same junk at the same stupid prices and it appears their inventory never sells. So I just stopped going; complete waste of time.

Vegas looked cool, but rusted in the showrooms and had issues with the cast iron sleeved aluminum blocks. Shame, they were like mini Camaros. The Cosworth Vega was a sweet ride, I had one for a few years. The Pinto was a piece of junk with not much in the looks department. But their 4 cyl engines were bullet proof. My buddy had one and we tried to kill the engine. Just kept on going.

Hopefully, the same guys who sell overpriced, junky tools are not delving into the “collector” car business.

-- Mike

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TravisH

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#15 posted 04-15-2013 11:13 AM

As mentioned lots of uniformed buyers that help drive prices. The other two variables I see frequently are lots of these tools are getting incorporated in to design so you have a different crowd purchasing tools to be utilized as decoration. Try buying an old legit wood working bench here…no go they are all being converted over to TV stands, kitchen islands, etc… lots of other smaller items being utilized in this industrial/steam punk movement of decoration.

The other issue is as a whole the Baby Boomer generation has the most discretionary income in history and when it comes to woodworking, flea markets, etc… you are dealing considerably with the baby boomers. People with deep pocketbooks have a tendency to spend more money for an item if they want it.

Are the items overpriced….I don’t know if they sell in a timely fashion to someone then no. The items I see at the market or antique store that I pick up and think a little high and set back down are gone within a few days when I decide just to pay the extra and go get it.

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