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sgv

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04-13-2013 11:57 AM

Id the Grizzly0715p that good of a saw, i am in the market for my new shop I was going with the rigid r4512
$499 keep looking saws up and I am now thinking of the 0715p from Grizzly. $799 plus $ 100 to ship sow is it twice the saw I am a intermediate wood worker had the same saw since the 80s it is so confusing I just want a good saw for the rite price

THanks all

-- Tite Lines, May the wind be at your back


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#1 posted 04-13-2013 12:15 PM

The guts of the trunnion system are actually pretty similar, if not identical. The G0715P has a nicer fence, solid cast iron wings, a full enclosure for better dust collection, and likely a stronger motor. What those features are worth to you is really up to you.

A good used saw can be a great buy too if the right deal comes along. Do you have 220v available?

Some help sorting out the difference between table saw types

It’d be good to post your general location….others may have some local ideas for you.

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sgv

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#2 posted 04-13-2013 12:54 PM

Thanks, moving to the blacksburg Va area from what i have seen the saw can go 220 or 110 a better fence is always a nice thing. I do have two months to make my mind up.

Thanks for the help

-- Tite Lines, May the wind be at your back

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gtbuzz

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#3 posted 04-13-2013 03:03 PM

I was in a similar situation. Checked out the R4512 a few months ago and had trouble with getting the blade aligned to the miter slot. Seemed to be a pretty common problem and I had one from a later production run (Sept ‘12) so I didn’t feel like fussing around with it too much.

I then tried the G0715P and that didn’t work out for me either. Ended up going through two different saws. The first one wouldn’t start up reliably on 110 w/o tripping the breaker (only had 110 available at the time). The second one had issues getting the blade aligned to the miter slot (after a couple of days also started to develop an issue starting on 110 like the first one). It took a while and was quite a pain, but Grizzly did end up making it all right and refunded my money.

knotscott is right about the G0715P. Having had hands-on time with both saws, I can attest to the fact that the trunnion mechanisms are identical on both saws. What you get is a nicer fence / rails and a better motor.

I’m on the fence about if the dust collection on the G0715 was really any better though. Neither the R4512 or the G0715P had a dust shroud around the blade inside the cabinet (take a look at the G0661 and you’ll see what I’m talking about). The dust would just fling around inside the cabinet until it was sucked out at the dust port. The Ridgid actually had a better seal at the bottom of the enclosure. The G0715P has a ramp at the bottom of the cabinet that’s just spot welded in a few places so dust can still drop past it (nothing some caulk or tape wouldn’t fix though. The R4512 has a large dust funnel that covers up the bottom of the base and does not have a gap. If the G0715P was any better, it was marginal at best and nothing I would consider paying more for.

The rails / fence on the Ridgid can also be upgraded. They’re getting hard to find now, but you could get a Delta T2 fence for the R4512 and you’d be OTD around $600-$700, depending on if you could get Home Depot to take a Harbor Freight coupon. That, of course, is assuming you can find a good saw without any defects. The Grizzly does seem to have a lower occurrence of the misaligned trunnion-to-table bolt holes, so there’s probably some better QC going on there, but keep in mind it is the same design.

Having used both saws your talking about, I’m of the opinion that the G0715P isn’t all that great of a bang for the buck (I’m sure that there are plenty of happy owners that would disagree with me though) mostly because of the trunnion design. The R4512 I feel is a little more attractive if you can get a good one because if you can get HD to take a Harbor Freight coupon, it’s only $400 + tax.

Better alternatives, I feel, are
- Looking for a used saw on Craigslist
- Steel City 35990 (comes in CI, granite and SS wings. The latter is $615 on the Lowe’s website and you can get a 10% off coupon pretty easily on eBay). It’s got the contractor form factor like the R4512, but has cabinet-mounted trunnions
- Craftsman 22116. I’ve seen these on sale for as low as $850 or so on the Sears website. It’s a clone of a slightly older Steel City cabinet style saw. Cabinet mounted trunnions again, and also has a built-in outfeed table

If you can swing a couple hundred $$’s once over, in the $1300ish range are the Grizzly G0690 and G1023. These are both 3HP true cabinet saws and I feel they’re a much better bang for the buck than the G0715.

For what it’s worth, the Steel City 35926 and 35950 used to be $899/$999 on Amazon but the price has jumped up by about $400 in the past few months. At that price, really no way I’d recommend those over the 3hp Grizzly units I mentioned.

In the end, I just ended up biting the bullet and got myself a SawStop 3hp PCS (had some 220 run as well). Can’t say that’s the right answer for everyone as it’s a pretty bit jump in price, but myself, I couldn’t be happier. I know this is a saw that’s gonna last me a very long time.

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JamesT

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#4 posted 04-13-2013 04:22 PM

My son has a 715P and is very satisfied with it. I have a 1023RL and fell the same way. What you will see from reading woodworking forum’s is that woodworking seems to be about 3-5Hp saws and $100-plus blades. (To some people) I enjoy a 3HP saw as much as the next person, but the projects I turn out are no better than when I was using a $99 Craftsman with a free blade. With that said, I believe the best value in a table saw is a good used Ridgid R4511 granite top. You can find one in the $375-425 range. Note: I said best value, not best saw.

-- Jim from Doniphan

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sgv

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#5 posted 04-14-2013 12:15 AM

Thanks still lots to think about I am checking into 220 at my new house what the $ will be, I am starting to lean to the Grizzly g0715p If I buy a new saw I dont want to by a new fence (does not make sense to me. if the 0715 come with a better fence and CI wings Things I dont have to get at a later time. THis could all change If I find some thing used or a wild hair about a a different saw

Any way thanks every one for all the help

-- Tite Lines, May the wind be at your back

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gfadvm

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#6 posted 04-14-2013 01:12 AM

I have had that GO715 for 4 years and have been very happy with it. Had a motor problem this year but it was a cheap fix. I’d buy it again if I had it to do over.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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sgv

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#7 posted 04-14-2013 11:24 AM

Thanks

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JamesT

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#8 posted 04-14-2013 01:51 PM

You can run a G0715P on 120 Volts if you have a 120 Volt, 20 amp circuit. You will need to replace the circuit breaker inside the saw’s on/off switch with Grizzly p/n T23999 ($6). The one that comes with the saw is sized for 240. Install a 120Volt plug on the cord and make a small wiring change as per the manual, and you’re good to go. The saw will run just as well on 120 as 240 if the circuit is sized correctly. Same power, same everything (no matter what some people will try to tell you).

-- Jim from Doniphan

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sgv

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#9 posted 04-14-2013 05:22 PM

Thanks James I have a email into my builder and finding out how much to run a 220 line just for saw. also just got off the the Grizzly site the 0690 think thats the number looks like a heck of a saw Dont think it is in my budget I only wanted to spend $500 to start now I am up to $900 with wheels. Coming from my old stamped top craftsman I think I will be happy with G0715 How long to rewire if the price comes back to high, I am pretty handy and have done some miner electric

Tight lines
may the wind be at your back

-- Tite Lines, May the wind be at your back

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JamesT

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#10 posted 04-15-2013 12:31 AM

sgv,
I’m not sure you understood what I said about the G0715P and 120Volts. Read my post again carefully. You don’t need a 220 Volt circuit. It will run just fine on a 120. Suggest you talk to Grizzly Tech Support. Good luck.

-- Jim from Doniphan

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Jim Jakosh

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#11 posted 04-15-2013 12:38 AM

I’m sure the Grizz is a very good saw. I really like their tools. I have a Ryobi BT3000 and it does everything I want in a table saw.

Go for it. You only go around once and all Lumberjocks deserve good tools!!...............Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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sgv

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#12 posted 04-15-2013 09:28 PM

Jim I did understand you post, my thought is if I can get 220 I may get the g0690, it is a possibility, better guts,
better fence, if I cant then I will probably go with the g0715, as it can be rewired for 110, (I dont like electricity it will kill you ) I would need help on that part dont want to mess up a new $800 saw

on that not what does any one think about the Grizzly 0690 saw videos and ratings are all good

Thanks every one for all the help

-- Tite Lines, May the wind be at your back

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JamesT

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#13 posted 04-15-2013 09:42 PM

The G0690 gets good reviews. I went to Springfield a couple days after Christmas to look at the G0690 and 1023RL side by side. I liked both of them, but ended-up getting the 1023RL because of the location of the dust port (not much of a reason). I’ve bought several Grizzly tools and have always been satisfied.

-- Jim from Doniphan

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HorizontalMike

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#14 posted 04-15-2013 09:43 PM

@sgv,
I started with that same ~$500 TS budget, but eventually ended up with the G0690. All I can say is wow. I have NEVER looked back. The G0690 is a lifetime saw IMO.

Here’s my gloat, er uh,... tablesaw:

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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sgv

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#15 posted 04-15-2013 09:56 PM

Thanks a bunch I am hoping the 220 is not outrages in price, the more I learn about saws the more I want a good one. (hoping for the 0690. H M nice Gloat, er uh Table saw any problems with the fence and how long have you had it, any problems at all this saw will be the last one I buy and hopefully one of my kids will want it when I am dust ( not one has shown a interest in wood working yet the youngest may be a little she is 21)

Thanks to all again

-- Tite Lines, May the wind be at your back

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