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04-06-2013 05:32 PM

I have a Powermatic 66, 220V single phase 5 hp. It has been in storage 7 to 8 years. I plugged it in to a tested outlet and absolutely nothing happened when I hit the ON button. No hum, no buzz, no breaker shut off. Where do I start to check for the problem?

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#1 posted 04-06-2013 05:47 PM

I’d check the switch itself.

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#2 posted 04-06-2013 05:50 PM

Yeah, I agree with JustJoe. If you’ve got a multimeter you can check for connectivity. A little contact cleaner spray wouldn’t be a bad investment, from Radio Shack or the like.

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#3 posted 04-06-2013 06:01 PM

Obvious question here – does everything turn freely?

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#4 posted 04-06-2013 06:03 PM

As mentioned, checking the switch is a good starting point.

Other things….

Check for a good connection from your plug to the switch

You said the saw has been sitting in storage, so I’d look at the motor. Check the centrifugal switch contacts.

I’m sure its a simple connection or contact problem.

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#5 posted 04-06-2013 06:08 PM

Simply bypass the switch and wire the motor to see if it starts; if it does, then the swithch or plug is the problem, if it doesn’t, the start capacitor could be bad.

I had the start capacitor go bad a couple times over the years with my 5hp Powermatic. (over a 25 year period).

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#6 posted 04-06-2013 06:16 PM

I think I would look the wiring over to see if any critters chewed on it while in storage, then move on to checking the other stuff. Bypassing the switch to see if it runs is a good quick way to find out where the problem is.

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#7 posted 04-06-2013 07:56 PM

check the breaker =)

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#8 posted 04-06-2013 08:10 PM

First thing I thought of was rodent damage. Hope that’s not the case.

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#9 posted 04-07-2013 12:26 AM

Send it to me – I’ll fix it.

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#10 posted 04-07-2013 03:41 PM

I would check the breaker like Fettler said, then get a voltmeter and check to make sure you have 220v at the outlet. I always start at the beginning,and easiest place to check, first. Next take the voltmeter and see if you have voltage at the switch and move on down the line. Oh wait, I just reread your post and you said it was a tested outlet so disregard the first part, although it may not hurt to recheck just to make sure it didn’t blow the breaker and you didn’t realize it.
Mike

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#11 posted 04-07-2013 03:56 PM

Maybe a little corrosion or dust in or on the contacts (motor starter, auxillary contacts, and and/or switches).

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#12 posted 04-07-2013 04:17 PM

+1 on the capacitor being the problem

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#13 posted 04-07-2013 07:45 PM

This may sound like a dumb question, but did the saw run before being put into storage? If it did, then I would suspect corrosion on the contact points of the magnetic starter or even a build-up of cobwebs in and around contacts. A meter should find the problem.

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#14 posted 04-07-2013 08:17 PM

It’s pretty easy to bypass a switch to test a motor. Take
the belts off, bypass the switch and test the motor
that way.

Sometimes a motor that’s been sitting for a long time
can’t self-start but if you give it a spin and run
it for awhile it will recover its ability to start under load.

Bad capacitors are a likely culprit as well.

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#15 posted 04-07-2013 11:34 PM

if it was a bad cap it would hum. if the start winding centrifugal switch is bad it will hum also but not start up. if it has a contactor and it doesent click when you hit the switch it is very likely the contacts on the start button. if you get it to start when you push the button but it stops when you let go of the button then the stop switch contacts are fouled also. You said you had tested the outlet so that eliminates the breaker or voltage at the outlet.

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