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Blackie_

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04-04-2013 11:03 PM

Hi fellow LJ’s I am working on a nice white maple project and in order to keep the proper theme for the project, I need a finish that won’t amber or alter the pure white of the maple, Here is what I have in my inventory. I already know that Varnish will amber.

100% none wax shellac
Poly wipe, 70 – 30 mix oil base poly and mineral spirits
Lacquer
Tung Oil

Thanks for your help.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs


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dee2

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#1 posted 04-04-2013 11:30 PM

I use Krylon brand spray lacquer on any light (bass, white oak, balsa, maple and poplar) wood that I don’t want to “amber”. If you go look on my intarsia of white dog, it is still white.
If, like on the tiger, I wanted it to amber, then I use polyurethane spray.
Also, off topic…....did you see the burled box on here at http://lumberjocks.com/projects/82132, pretty cool looking!

-- Dee2, OH Aromatherapy....fresh cut wood!!

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AandCstyle

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#2 posted 04-04-2013 11:47 PM

Here is another option. I’ve had good luck with the Target products I have used.

-- Art

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Grandpa

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#3 posted 04-04-2013 11:53 PM

The laquer I have used turns red but it takes years. I used whatever the lumber yard had onm the shelf. It came in gallons. This was years ago. I think water based polyurethane varnish will stay clear. Some others might know about this.

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Jamie Speirs

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#4 posted 04-05-2013 12:13 AM

Mineral oil with pure turpentine spirit and a wee bit of caranuba wax
just remember to dissolve the wax in the spirit if you use it

jamie

-- Who is the happiest of men? He who values the merits of others, and in their pleasure takes joy, even as though 'twere his own. --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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Jim Jakosh

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#5 posted 04-05-2013 12:20 AM

I would go with clear lacquer!........Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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Clint Searl

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#6 posted 04-05-2013 12:22 AM

CAB acrylic lacquer for spray
Waterborne poly for brushon

-- Clint Searl....Ya can no more do what ya don't know how than ya can git back from where ya ain't been

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cabmaker

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#7 posted 04-05-2013 12:55 AM

Water white lacqer.

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DocSavage45

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#8 posted 04-05-2013 12:59 AM

Randy it might have a different effect but water based poly seems to produce a non tinted finish?

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mantwi

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#9 posted 04-05-2013 01:18 AM

Grandpa is right. Water based polyurethane does stay clear. It’s also pretty durable and easy to apply. It dries quickly so you can do 2 or 3 coats in a day. I finished a mahogany huntboard with it about 15 years ago as a gift for my in-laws and the finish is as clear as the day it went on.

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Blackie_

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#10 posted 04-05-2013 01:49 AM

Sounds like if I use what’s on my finishing shelf the Lacquer is the best next to nothing, I’ll give it a test on some maple and see.

Thanks all for your responses a great help.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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gfadvm

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#11 posted 04-05-2013 01:49 AM

Randy, Either Deft Lacquer or regular Zinsser Bullseye shellac should work. My maple and sycamore stuff that I’ve posted are finished with one of these. Look at em and see if this is the look you want.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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Dark_Lightning

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#12 posted 04-05-2013 02:19 AM

Another option is automotive clear coat. You can bet they don’t yellow, whether lacquer or enamel. I painted one of my cars with lacquer awhile back, and when my neighbor across the street was looking for a clear coat for some cabinets, I pointed him to the auto parts store that sells the lacquer. Came out great, and it has the added advantage of being dry in a few minutes…to the point of being able to pick it up.

Personally, I like nitrocellulose lacquer for the yellowing. YTMV.

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Blackie_

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#13 posted 04-05-2013 11:22 AM

Andy, I have both of those in my finishing cabinet, I took a look at your work and left a comment, yes I can live with the look of the shellac thanks.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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NiteWalker

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#14 posted 04-05-2013 02:58 PM

Even blonde shellac (I use zinsser sealcoat, a 2lb cut of blonde/clear shellac) will give maple a bit of color. For a completely clear finish I use crystalac super premium from mcfeely’s. I’ve used it on purpleheart and it imparts no color whatsoever.

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Dan Lyke

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#15 posted 04-05-2013 05:37 PM

I think the problem is that Maple is going to turn amber no matter what you put on it. That’s what Maple does, and it’ll continue to darken over time.

The polyurethane or some of the super-clear shellacs are probably going to have the least tint, but if you want something that stays white you’re better off choosing a different wood.

-- Dan Lyke, Petaluma California, http://www.flutterby.net/User:DanLyke

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