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weldoman

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03-30-2013 12:42 PM

Hey fellow LJ’s, I’ve been wanting to make some box joints maybe dovetails on my router table or TS and found a
“Incra Jig ULTRA jointing system” on CL . There are so many incra products out there,Im not sure what I’m looking at. Is this a good setup? Or too complicated to use? Thanks Dave

-- missouri, dave


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bondogaposis

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#1 posted 03-30-2013 01:54 PM

Probably not, if you have to ask. I never buy a tool unless I absolutely have an immediate need for it on a project. and know how I am going to use it.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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scotsman9

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#2 posted 03-30-2013 01:57 PM

Dave there is no link or pic to the system your referring to.

-- Just a man and his opinion.

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Lee Barker

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#3 posted 03-30-2013 02:51 PM

It’s so easy to do box joints on the TS with a dado blade.

Two pieces of wood and you’re ready to start the process (which includes some learning and some trial and error, of course).

Kindly,

Lee

-- "...in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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Bill White

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#4 posted 03-30-2013 03:04 PM

Though I don’t have the specific jig, I have the Incra 1000SE miter gauge, and all the Incra products seem to be well engineered and accurate.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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helluvawreck

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#5 posted 03-30-2013 03:15 PM

You can get by with a self made box joint jig. However, Incra does make some nice jigs. There’s nothing wrong with getting it if you want to. It’s your call.

helluvawreck aka Charles
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-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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shipwright

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#6 posted 03-30-2013 04:15 PM

Lee’s absolutely right.
There’s no need for elaborate box joint jigs.
The simple one he shows will work every time and never goes out of adjustment.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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bannerpond1

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#7 posted 03-30-2013 04:32 PM

The ease and the limitation of the homemade jig are one in the same: You don’t have to adjust it, but you can’t adjust it. You could make a 1/4 inch jig and a 1/2 inch and probably not need anything else. Or you can use this link and see Tommy MacDonald of Rough Cut Woodworking make large finger joints in the Greene and Greene style: http://www.thomasjmacdonald.com/rough-cut-woodworking/media/video.php?vid=d98c24704

I tried his technique with the shim, and it works great. You don’t need a jig, just a crosscut sled which will allow you to use a stop block.

If you don’t have a crosscut sled, I heartily recommend you make one. They are so much more useful than any miter gauge. You make the 4-way cut (see The Wood Whisperer) and see how close to 90 degrees you’re really cutting.

-- --Dale Page

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weldoman

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#8 posted 03-30-2013 05:54 PM

Thanks for the info and the advice, heres the CL link http://stlouis.craigslist.org/tls/3702648770.html

-- missouri, dave

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camps764

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#9 posted 03-30-2013 06:29 PM

I got some good advice from the guy that owns our local woodworking store – Midwest Woodworkers – I was looking to pick something like this up from his store and asked him a few questions about it. Toward the end of the conversation he said – ‘do you plan to make a lot of finger joints?’ I said ‘depends, probably a couple boxes now and then.’ he replied ‘I’d recommend saving the money and making your own jig then’

And that’s what I did. Once you make your own and get a good understanding of how they work – not complicated – you will probably be happy you saved the 125 and put it toward something else that you’ll use like crazy.

Just my $.02

-- Steve. Visit my website http://www.campbellwoodworking.com

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gfadvm

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#10 posted 03-31-2013 02:01 AM

I use the shop made jigs like Lee suggested but I am really coveting the Incra I Box jig. The one in your CL ad is not a box joint jig and some of those older Incra jigs were a lott fussier to set up than their newer ones. I’d pass personally.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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Shawn Masterson

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#11 posted 03-31-2013 11:52 PM

notice he has had it for 12 years and hardly used it. if he didn’t use it then you probably won’t use it either. there are a lot of fixtures and tools out there that are just gimmicks. they look great and once you get it home you use it once or twice and never pick it up again. I always think it over for a while before I get something like that. I usually end up passing.

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NiteWalker

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#12 posted 04-01-2013 07:12 PM

Do you need it? No.
Do you want it? That’s up to you. It’s a very good price.

There’s a lot who will say “you don’t need it” and entice you to get by with the minimum amount of tool purchases, but for some of us (myself included) part of the enjoyment of this wonderful hobby is buying and using new toys/tools.

I could have made a box joint jig, but I bought an ibox because I had the desire to do so.

@gfadvm; The ibox is amazing. It was worth every penny and I don’t feel as though wasted my money or could have built my own better. Hartville tool has the best price and is a great place to deal with.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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MrRon

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#13 posted 04-01-2013 07:20 PM

As others said, box joints are easy to make. I don’t endorse pricey gadgets. The only thing I do that is new to me is using the Freud box joint blade instad of a dado blade. The box joint blade gives you a flat bottom cut, whereas a dado blade may not.

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gfadvm

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#14 posted 04-02-2013 02:12 AM

NiteWalker- Thanks for the link and endorsement. I found the same price on Amazon but I’m just not ready to spend that much when my shop made ones work well. But I still REALLY WANT ONE! And then a Hinge Crafter, an Incra miter gauge, an Incra sled…..........

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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