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Forum topic by tsdahc posted 03-29-2013 07:23 PM 1481 views 0 times favorited 30 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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tsdahc

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03-29-2013 07:23 PM

Topic tags/keywords: table saw rigid 4512 sawstop

So I have been having issues getting good cuts on my bosch 4100, mainly when using a miter guage or sled and I finally figured out why, my table is crowned so the miter guage and sleds will change angle to the blade as it goes across the table. For the most part I didnt notice it as most of my projects were small boxes. Its now too late to return the saw so off to CL it goes for a local contractor to scoop up for a song. Still perfectly good construction saw, woodworking not so much. Anyways since I am saving for a weeding the SawStop is out of the cards until next summer so I have been mulling over a 4512. I have been checking CL for used saws but when the 3650 are being offered at 400-500 on CL Id rather buy new. I do not have 220 nor can I easily or cheaply get it in my townhouse. So after the long winded intro.

I called HD and they said they just put one together yesterday on the floor, I can either have that one or the one in the box. Obviosuly a box is easier to transport, should I go for the one already put together or get the one in the box?

This saw seems to get mostly good reviews and I think itll be a good saw until Im allowed to get the SawStop. ( i am pushing the Sawstop but I just dont think the boss is going to go for it right now, I already got a yes to one after the wedding)

Also anyone have any good suggestions for additions they made to their 4512?


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huff

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#1 posted 03-29-2013 08:53 PM

tsdahc,

Think about who probably put that saw together @ HD. Personally, I would rather put the saw together myself so I know how it was done. It would give me a better idea how the saw is built and I would have a chance to align and tighten things properly as I went.

The better you understand your saw, I believe the better results you’ll have using it. I doubt the guy at HD will take near as much care in putting it together as you would.

You can add accessories at any time; the only thing I would probably get in the beginning with the saw is a really good blade to put on it.

Good luck and enjoy your new saw.

-- John @ http://www.thehuffordfurnituregroup.com

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tsdahc

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#2 posted 03-29-2013 09:24 PM

That’s what I was thinking on the assembly, that and the assembled one would be a pain to tie down in my truck. The only reason I was thinking of the assembled one is I could see if the blade height changing was an issue or not. I already have 3 Freud blades, a dado and box joint set from oshlun.

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Brandon

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#3 posted 03-29-2013 09:30 PM

Ditto to what huff said!

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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Brandon

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#4 posted 03-29-2013 09:30 PM

Plus, if you buy the floor model, they may give you the “extra parts” that the guy at HD had left over when he assembled it.

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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gfadvm

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#5 posted 03-30-2013 01:52 AM

The ones I have seen that were assembled at HD were disasters! Looked like they put em together to look at and not to use!

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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#6 posted 03-30-2013 02:03 AM

I can definitely understand wanting to put it together yourself. I would imagine assemblers do this quite a bit and have likely gotten decent at doing it and are familar with that saw. That may be giving them to much credit though. I to would like to assemble mine myself as others have said.

The upside to buying the floor model is you may just have to remove it from the base to get it in your vehicle or perhaps not even that.Only 8 bolts. Either way the warranty is the same so you will be covered. And of course buying the floor model will save you a day you won’t lose assemblying it and making adjustments. Advantages both ways.

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#7 posted 03-30-2013 02:46 AM

I bought the 4512 a few months ago and I love it. I would highly recommend assembling it yourself. The side wings are aluminum and not cast iron so they take a bit of adjusting to get them square and true. One tip I have is to make sure the fence is square before locking it to the rail. I learned that having a rip fence that locks in front and back mah not be optimum. That being said, I do love the 4512 but do think I am going to have to replace it with a saw stop in years to come.

-- "If at first you don't succeed....get a bigger hammer"

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Tim_H

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#8 posted 03-30-2013 02:47 AM

*may not be optimum

-- "If at first you don't succeed....get a bigger hammer"

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#9 posted 03-31-2013 02:45 AM

tsdahc, I would definitely not go buy a saw I didn’t really want and plan to get the one you want next year. That just doesn’t seem reasonable. If it’s good for a year, why upgrade? If it’s not good enough to keep, why get it now? Save the money on the Rigid and buy what you really want. I don’t think I’m a snob, but I wouldn’t touch the saws at the box stores. They’re too limited on power, trunion design, and fence. The fence is the most important thing on a saw, in my opinion. You will never regret buying the best you can afford. I think you will regret if you settle for something you don’t really want.

-- --Dale Page

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#10 posted 03-31-2013 03:01 AM

Why purchase a saw that’s potentially the same quality as the one you wish to ditch? If you know the table is crowned can you flatten it?

If you know you are getting a SS put the $$ for the 4512 away in cash in a safety deposit box and then hide the key. Paint your current saw for the “new” feel and to show what you have for the missing $500 to the Missus. Then when it’s time for the SS take your cash and put toward the new saw.

Keep in mind the 4512 is still a contractor saw. Not sure you wouldn’t be just delaying your eventual purchase (or worse) by “upgrading” to same class of machine compared to cab saw.

Just my thoughts. Ex-4512 owner here.

But if you just have to get the Ridgid (and there are happy Ridgid owners out ther for sure) I sure as HHHHEEEELLLLLL would not have anyone else put my saw together. Especially at HD. No. Way. At. All. Period. Forget it.

Chances are you’ll have to take stuff off to realign everything anyway. You think they are pulling out the 60” straight edge and spending an hour aligning the tables, fence, and extensions? Really?

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tsdahc

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#11 posted 03-31-2013 11:42 AM

Thank you all for your input. I wanted to go right to the SS but the boss was fighting the cost. She finally gave the ok so I went to go pick up a saw at the local woodcraft, turns out there’s a 2-3 week wait. Searched every dealer within 100 miles nobody has one, so ill be waiting a few weeks but hopefully a new PCS 1.75 hp with 36 in rails will be in the shop by the end of April. Now to figure out how the heck I’m going to fit it in.

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#12 posted 03-31-2013 12:22 PM

Congrats! Be sure to post some pics when you get it set up.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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NiteWalker

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#13 posted 03-31-2013 01:37 PM

You did good. :)
I’m getting that saw by the end of the year.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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tsdahc

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#14 posted 04-01-2013 04:48 PM

As my new updated heading reads, i decided to pull the trigger on the Saw Stop instead, just didnt make sense to buy a lower end saw to fill in as a stop gap for the SS. I placed my order with my local woodcraft today and itll be in, in 7-10 business days!!!! Now the hard part, waiting…. worse then christmas as a kid. Also for anyone that is thinking of getting one before their promotion is up, I spoke to CS today about the free rebate and if you have to order one as soon as they ship ask the store person for the serial number and you can get the process rolling for either the wheels or the collector. This way in my case they will ship out thursday, I ll get my SN and fill out the paperwork, the wheels should arrive within a day or two of the saw. Very nice and friendly folks over at sawstop.

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#15 posted 04-01-2013 05:07 PM

enjoy your new saw

-- Joel

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