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SuperCubber

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03-27-2013 02:05 AM

Topic tags/keywords: question finish storage general finishes storing finish

Hi all,

I’m hopeful that one or possibly more can shed some light on an issue for me.

Like many of you, I don’t get into the shop as often as I’d like, so I have a can of General Finishes Water-Based Top Coat that’s been sitting for about a year. The finish is fine, but the rim of the can has started to rust. The result is tiny chips of rusted metal falling into the finish and a less than perfect seal on the can.

Since I’m in the middle of finishing a project, my temporary fix has been to move the finish into a plastic water bottle. My question is whether or not this is a viable long term storage possibility. Does anyone know? Better yet, does anyone have any different or better alternatives?

Thanks!
Joe

-- Joe | Spartanburg, SC | "To give anything less than your best is to sacrafice the gift." - Steve Prefontaine


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#1 posted 03-27-2013 02:25 AM

Whenever I buy any h2o based finiksh, I always move it to a plastic container, just because of that problem. Also, I move it into the house in the winter so it doesn’t freeze out in my shop.

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#2 posted 03-27-2013 02:46 AM

I move stuff into mason jars as it gets smaller in quantity. Space is the biggest issue.
+1 Druid666 wrote you need to store it in a place that will not let it freeze.
Use 3/4 masking tape and write when last used on it each time you open anything, glue, finish, stain, etc etc. If you don’t want to move chemicals inside because of who might get into them you could build a cabinet and use a 40wt incadescent bulb to keep it warm, NOT hot…. Maybe a therm to keep an eye on it? I have a climate controlled shop so this is not an issue, others may offer suggestions on how to build from experience.

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#3 posted 03-27-2013 02:53 AM

Thanks guys!

My shop/garage never gets below 50-55 F, so I don’t have to worry about freezing.

I never thought about labeling the last time I used it. I usually label the date I purchased it, so I have an idea of how old it is.

I’m glad to know plastic is okay. I’m able to get 1 liter plastic bottles from works, so that’ll help.

Thanks again!

-- Joe | Spartanburg, SC | "To give anything less than your best is to sacrafice the gift." - Steve Prefontaine

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#4 posted 03-27-2013 02:44 PM

I transfer all of my finishes to these jars from usplastic. Mostly 16 and 32 oz jars, but for my custom mixed colors, the 8 oz ones. They’re cheap, air tight, and the 8, 16 and 32 oz versions fit my hvlp turbine gun so it’s really a great match for me.

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#5 posted 03-27-2013 02:51 PM

NiteWalker +1 Thanks for the link, have to check them out. I started using the mason jars because they fit my Critter for smaller jobs.

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#6 posted 03-27-2013 03:19 PM

Joe,

One thing you may want to check on in the data specs. for that finish is the shelf life. Not sure which one you’ve had for a year, but some products will have a fairly short shelf life once opened ( 6 months to a year), so rust on the can lid may not be the only problem to look at or be concerned with.

Anything pre-catalyzed has even a shorter shelf life.

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#7 posted 03-27-2013 04:19 PM

@woodbutcherbynight; I started spraying with a critter (and still have it) and id the same thing with the mason jars. I got a very good finish off the gun with it, but naturally there was more overspray. The turbine gun I use now works in much the same way with the jars.

Most waterborne finishes have a very long shelf life; the product I use, crystalac super premium, has an indefinitel shelf life so long as it’s closed properly.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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#8 posted 03-27-2013 04:41 PM

Thanks, Huff! From what I can tell it’s at least a 3-year shelf life. I’ve already sprayed some and it has dried beautifully. I’m going to have to check out some plastic jugs that can attach right to the sprayer. That would be a huge convenience.

-- Joe | Spartanburg, SC | "To give anything less than your best is to sacrafice the gift." - Steve Prefontaine

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#9 posted 03-27-2013 11:57 PM

NiteWalker I have been looking at a few systems which one do you use now? Years ago Bearpaw who sold me on the Critter for small easy projects and it works so I have not bothered to move up… yet…. :)

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#10 posted 03-28-2013 12:44 AM

I switched from Becker Acroma to another make that comes in a plastic container because I was sick of having big lumps of rust falling in the finish, sick of struggling with metal lids that weld themselves onto the tin too.

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#11 posted 03-28-2013 01:01 AM

@woodbutcherbynight; I was using a hvlp conversion gun for a while (QS-125WB from homestead finishing) and it worked well, but my compressor ran quite a bit and I wanted a full size gun.

I ended up going for a fuji mini mite 4. It’s been great so far, though I did have a few issues at first. I started a blog regarding it. I’ll be updating it tomorrow most likely.

@renners; the wb clear I use comes in plastic containers too. It’s a major improvement over the classic cans.

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#12 posted 03-28-2013 03:30 AM

Nitewalker, thanks for the info, I looked your review over, very informative despite the issue with the needles it sounds like a good choice. Out of curiosity what size compressor were you using?

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#13 posted 03-28-2013 07:24 AM

It’s a makita MAC 2400.
Very heavy and reliable, but since I got the fuji I sold it. I’m getting the rolair JC10. For the moderate amount of use my compressor gets, along with needing to be moved somewhat frequently, the makita was just too heavy for me.

About the fuji, I did order an apollo 7500T gun at a good price if that works as well as I think it will, I’ll be selling my fuji turbine gun.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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