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03-26-2013 10:53 AM

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i am really trying to become more skilled with my hand tools i have always been somewhat of a hybrid woodworker using both hand and power tools but i want to delve a bit deeper into hand tools, i am not will to spend more than €40 for a no.4 smoother, i was looking at amazon and there are some great stanleys but i have also seen some planes by a brand called faithful has anyone else ever tried them???? Also does any one have any suggestions for block planes

-- Adam, Ireland,

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#1 posted 03-26-2013 11:01 AM

Adam, look on for a Record or a Stanley. There’s loads of them. I have tried to avoid Faithful tools as they all seem really rough. Or you could go the car boot route.

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#2 posted 03-26-2013 11:46 AM

A faithful plane needs about 4 hours of fetling/tuning
I bought one for my son.
Once set it is a great plane, but like Renners I would
go for a used Stanley or Record £15 ebay is average


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#3 posted 03-26-2013 12:56 PM

Adam, have you looked in antique or pawn shops? Or maybe an estate/garage sale? Can be a great place to pick some up on the cheap. I found a guy whose father had passed away and picked up a turn of the century (1900s) Union 4G, a mortise gauge, combination square, and some auger bits for around $40 (US). That 4G cleaned up quick and very nicely, and works great.

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#4 posted 03-26-2013 02:28 PM


You’ll find some reall good deals, just be careful. Some rust will be expected and some work will be required to clean up/sharpen it, but the effort will be worth it. I just received a Stanley #4 made around 1941 that had minor rust. When i took it apart I found the blade had minor use and had never been sharpened. I paid $30 (US) for a practically new plane!

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#5 posted 03-26-2013 11:28 PM

Adam, I agree with others in the pitch for Ebay. Almost all of my Record planes came from England when I was stationed in Germany. There is a bunch of stuff on there for very reasonable prices.

-- Mike

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#6 posted 03-27-2013 01:40 AM

You are not going to get much of a plane for that price new. Look to the used market for pre WWII users, that is where you get the most bang for your buck.

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#7 posted 03-27-2013 02:10 AM

There is a good store on your side of the ocean – Tony Murland’s antique tools. He’s got a couple #4 sized Stanley Made in England for 25 pounds. I don’t know what shipping is from him to you, but it’s gotta be a lot cheaper than anything from the US.

EDIT: My favorite block planes are the low angle stanleys with the adjustable throat. Model # depends on your hand size but they’re the 60-65 numbers if you check out Mr. Leach’s blood and gore site.

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