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Forum topic by distrbd posted 03-23-2013 01:32 AM 1844 views 0 times favorited 51 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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distrbd

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03-23-2013 01:32 AM

If you remember the thread I started about lending tools to friends,well Today a friend came over with a box full of scrap pieces of hard maple and very dry oak asking me if he could cut them on my miter saw(10” sliding Bosch),well after cutting two or three pieces I heard a loud bang and saw my poor saw blade stock in the middle of a cut,not turning but the motor still humming.

To cut the long story short the miter saw is toast,the fence is bent,the blade teeth broken,the motor makes a grinding noise.I tried to save it but it is beyond repair.

He now insists to pay for it but I don’t know how to go about accepting his offer,he says he would really like to take me to home depot and we buy a similar or better miter saw and he’ll pay half of the cost .

I don’t know if it’s fair on the guy to pay anything over $250 for my used slider but that also means I now have to pay an additional $300 from my own pocket to buy a decent SCMS.
What do you think about a Dewalt DW 717? Amazon.ca has it for $499.HD is $100 more but they’ll probably match the price,how about Makita1013L or 1016?

I am only interested in 10” SCMS ,is there a model/brand you recommend?
Thank you,I know this has been covered a 1000 times but the search only shows posts from 2 years ago.

-- Ken from Ontario


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Dark_Lightning

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#1 posted 03-23-2013 01:40 AM

I think the going rate for trashing one of my tools is currently one pound of flesh, where I get to pick the location. j/k Consider yourself extremely lucky that he didn’t get hurt when he trashed your saw. The results could have been day and night different. I get people asking me to cut their wood. Either I do it on my machines or it doesn’t get done, period. I personally think you should consider depreciation on the cost of your saw (in today’s prices) and deduct that amount from the cost of new. But that’s all, and the saw could have lasted another decade or two with proper use. Yep, I’m hard-nosed tonight. I’ve spent about 8 extra hours travel time commuting this week, and I’m not even the one with the road rage problem.

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distrbd

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#2 posted 03-23-2013 01:48 AM

You are right ,he’s very luck he didn’t get hurt,I could never have forgiven myself if he had.

-- Ken from Ontario

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#3 posted 03-23-2013 01:51 AM

how the heck can you destroy a saw with a piece of wood?
Did the blade bind and the wood got kicked back into the fence ?

-- Yves

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RonInOhio

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#4 posted 03-23-2013 01:58 AM

Maybe the bigger question is, was this user error or the saws fault ? Seems like an awful lot of
damage resulted regardless. Good thing no one was hurt , you would be liable if your friend
got seriously injured and he wanted to push the issue.
Just saying….

It can be nice I suppose to have a friend to share the shop with. Having said that, make sure your
insurance liablility covers accidents on your property.

But back to buying a saw.
Really can’t recommend any particular saw. I just have a cheap compound Ryobi and so far it gets the job done
just fine for me.

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distrbd

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#5 posted 03-23-2013 02:00 AM

Yves,that’s exactly what happened,he was forcing the blade it to the wood.the fence is totally bent and can not be fixed,the blade is also damaged (teeth missing) it also got jammed inside the cradle and would not turn.

-- Ken from Ontario

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#6 posted 03-23-2013 02:01 AM

I had a piece of 9/4 walnut bind and try and kick back and it’s not anywhere near as hard as that hard maple. But I think I would accept his offer, find one comparable to the original and get it when you had the finances. Saving the friendship from any bitterness or resentment is the biggest issue here. Keeping friends is much more important than the loss of a saw.

-- Richard, Hot Springs, Ar -- Galoot In Training

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distrbd

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#7 posted 03-23-2013 02:03 AM

Ron I suppose I couldn’t go wrong with a Makita slider ,it gets great reviews(Makita 1013L)

-- Ken from Ontario

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Don Broussard

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#8 posted 03-23-2013 02:17 AM

Agree that you were both lucky he wasn’t hurt. If he pays for half of your replacement miter saw, will he expect to use it like he’s a half-owner? Like a time-share tool?

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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woodbutcherbynight

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#9 posted 03-23-2013 02:21 AM

+1 RonInOhio because in todays world everyone is litigation happy.

Too bad they don’t have a 2 for 1 special. He could buy that and you would have one, and so would he! Problem solved…... Of course this 2 for 1 idea is never going to happen…..........

-- Live to tell the stories, they sound better that way.

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Brandon

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#10 posted 03-23-2013 02:25 AM

The friend gets the old saw. :-)

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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RonInOhio

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#11 posted 03-23-2013 02:27 AM

I have heard many rave about Makita tools. Probably can’t go wrong with any of the better
brands. Makita,Dewalt,etc.

Personally probably will never spend more than 350 on a chop saw but thats
just me.

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darthford

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#12 posted 03-23-2013 02:31 AM

Its times like these when you cut your friends a break and decline the offer, it was an accident he likely feels bad enough already just tell him your glad he didn’t get hurt that’s what’s important. As for Default I’m done with them, I dropped several hundred on one of their chop saws and the fence was bowed out of the box and had other manufacturing defects. They stuck me with a lemon power tool a couple years before that also.

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#13 posted 03-23-2013 02:32 AM

I have the Makita 12” SCMS, though I have used it very little so far, I like the fit, finish and operation, so I would go with a Makita.

Or – if the friend is buying – the Festool Kapex. Sorry, just throwing that out there!

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#14 posted 03-23-2013 02:34 AM

I would not let your friend help pay for the newsaw. I had a neighbor ruin my pressure washer and he wasnted to buy me a new one. I wouldn’t let him becasue if I did he might think he could ask to barrow it sometime. Buy having to replace it myself with my own money, I’m hoping he’ll neve ask to barrow again.

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#15 posted 03-23-2013 02:36 AM

I couldn’t imagine breaking someones tool and then only offering to pay half the replacement cost. Shouldn’t use something you can’t afford to buy in case you break it or at the bare minimum make sure you know what you’re doing.

-- It's made of wood. Real sturdy.--Chubbs Peterson

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