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JesseTutt

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523 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: hot glue

Sometimes I will read a post and they will refer to “Hot Melt Glue” and after consideration I decide that they are referring to Hot Hide Glue. Other times I decide that they are referring to the glue sticks that run through a gun to liquefy and then harden on cooling. These guns are usually a favorite in the crafts.

I was just reading a post about a sled for jointing with a planer and the author suggested using hot glue to fasten the wedges in place. I had to pause and ask myself if he was referring to Hot Hide glue or Hot Melt glue.

Is there an easier way of determining what a poster means by Hot Glue?

-- Jesse, Saint Louis, Missouri


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#1 posted 523 days ago

Anytime I see “hot glue”, I assume the glue sticks that are fed through a little heat gun.

Does anyone still use hot hide glue? Don’t most simply call it “hide glue”?

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#2 posted 523 days ago

Indeed, hot hide glue is still used. But it’s most by the artists that specialize in the traditional ways of woodworking, and it’s still an excellent way to apply veneer. But to me when someone says “hot melt” it’s the newer glue sticks….

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#3 posted 523 days ago

When I see hot melt glue I assume it is the sticks in the heat gun. Hide glue is referred to as hide glue or hot hide glue.

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Grandpa

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#4 posted 523 days ago

Hot melt is the sticks that melt int he gun. Hide glue will ususally be listed as hide glue and not hot hide glue in my experience.

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#5 posted 523 days ago

Thanks guys.

I agree with Stephenw, if I don’t see otherwise I assume it is the glue that goes through the heat gun.

What about in turning, if someone says to use “hot glue” to attach a piece to a sacrificial block, is that hot gun glue or hot hide glue?

-- Jesse, Saint Louis, Missouri

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#6 posted 523 days ago

I am still thinking stick glue. There are different sticks for different purposes. Some are really soft while others are harder and stronger. I would rather use wood glue and heavy paper for this purpose. it will work and is stronger than the stick glue.

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joeyinsouthaustin

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#7 posted 523 days ago

There is a third option as well…. as in the hot melt glue used to adhere veneered and other edge banding. It comes pre-applied and, as in my shop (shop gloat:), From a hot melt glue pot on an edge banding machine. So any of these three might be part of a thread. The forth rare option is the back end of this, uv or heat curing pva glues… although I don’t think anyone would call this hot melt.

Just another idea to get stuck on ;0

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shipwright

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#8 posted 523 days ago

Does anyone still use hot hide glue?

Many of us use hot hide glue for its ,in many cases, superior qualities to “modern” glues.
Here’s a brief beginner's guide if you’re interested.

I always say hot hide glue, liquid hide glue or animal protein glue when I’m referring to it as do most other users. If I hear “hot glue” or especially “hot melt glue”, I’d assume it means craft gun glue.

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#9 posted 523 days ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Raq3pbGmmOg
Stew Mac talks about mixing Hide Glue.

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Nighthawk

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#10 posted 523 days ago

Bostik electric gluuuue gun…

Oh I still remember the TV advert when they first came out… lol

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#11 posted 523 days ago

”Does anyone still use hot hide glue? Don’t most simply call it “hide glue”?”

Most musical instruments; guitars,violins,etc., are made using hide glue. Hide glue is used anytime the project may have to be disassembled sometime in the future for repair. Typically the glue joints can be loosened up by using heat and/or steam.

Also some woodworkers still use many vintage woodworking techiniques. So often, hide glue is the only thing they use.

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Nighthawk

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#12 posted 521 days ago

Rick L: The process of the hot melt glue has been round longer than that and actually invented in 1894 by a dude called Miles Kent… I was meaning the advert not the product… Also the DIY version of the glue gun is more recent, and was common in every home till around the early 70’s (well here in NZ anyway) before that it was more a commercial product… (Again here in NZ anyway)

Was actually meant to say “when advert first came out” and yes should of added the fact (here in NZ)

so Geeeeeeeezzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!! who cares

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woodbutcherbynight

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#13 posted 520 days ago

I would advise against using hot melt glue for turnings unless someone has a tip otherwise. Tried it once and as advised by many I stick with what works well, regular glue or double sided tape. I can tell you a trick I did learn by mistake with using hot melt glue to make cheap parts boxes to fit the drawers of a toolbox. I applied the glue to the bottom as most, then put it in place. Letting it cool for a few minutes I then put a piece of foil over the bottom and put a old iron (DO NOT BORROW YOUR WIFE”S) on top of it and let the glue get hot all around the joint. End result was a small parts box that did not fall apart the first time it was “abused”. Previous versions have been since modified in similiar manner. If you want a picture of the process I will make some.

Disclaimer: I am NOT responsible for you getting whacked in the head with the iron you borrowed without permission from you spouse and got hot glue on it. (laughing)

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Lee Barker

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#14 posted 518 days ago

I accidentally or serendipitously came across this info about various types of hot melt glue:

Nice to know!

Kindly,

Lee

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joeyinsouthaustin

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#15 posted 518 days ago

Lee I love it when someone finds stuff like this… +10

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