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Blackie_

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03-13-2013 09:45 PM

I just walked into the shop to finish up on a project that I had started, it was my first mitered jewelry box, the glue up and feathers were complete and the lid was separated, what I walked in to find was the front and back wall warped inward, the wood used was pecan, it was still a log when I got it and had been laying on the ground for an unknown given time but it seems long enough that it was dry as that’s what it appeared when I was working it.

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SamuraiSaw

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#1 posted 03-13-2013 09:49 PM

Do you have a moisture meter? Most likely the wood was still too wet. I check all my lumber before use, including the stuff I know has been kiln dried.

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paratrooper34

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#2 posted 03-13-2013 09:51 PM

Randy, did you allow time time for it to acclimate to your shop after it was milled? I have seen this happen when wood is milled up and then used immediately. The wood doesn’t reach equillibium with the air in the shop and it warps. Whenever I get wood milled up, I sticker it for a week or two and it remains stable.

Additionally, since it was a log that you got and then cut up, a moisture meter should be used to make sure it had a proper moisture content. It might not have been dried enough.

-- Mike

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Monte Pittman

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#3 posted 03-13-2013 09:52 PM

I have one of those sitting in my shop. Really ticks me off every time I walk by it.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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Blackie_

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#4 posted 03-13-2013 10:53 PM

I don’t have a moisture meter, after I milled it I stuck it out in my wood shed for a few weeks then brought it into my shop.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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DocSavage45

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#5 posted 03-13-2013 11:34 PM

Do you have heat in your shop? Winter sucks moisture out of everything. You can keep it as a reminder? Charles Neil always recomends allowing drying time, especially if you just cut a piece of any material as inside is different than outside. He also recomends putting the wood in plastic bags while aclimating.

Good Luck!

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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Roger

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#6 posted 03-13-2013 11:35 PM

Seems like it’s still movin. Maybe not dry nuff, or, the change from being in one place and moved to another mighta done did it

-- Roger from KY. Work/Play/Travel Safe. Kentuk55@bellsouth.net

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#7 posted 03-13-2013 11:44 PM

Without a moisture meter, it’s hard to tell how dry a piece of lumber is or isn’t. A general rule of thumb is that freshly milled lumber should dry one year per inch of thickness before using it. I’m guessing it wasn’t real dry, and there was enough humidity differential between your woodshed and shop to cause it to react.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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Bill White

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#8 posted 03-13-2013 11:49 PM

You could always wait for the box to stabilize, made a “goofy” lid for it, and call it a wet or dry design.
Who knows? Might make a great conversation piece.
Storage box for duck blind environments?
Bill

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iamwelty

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#9 posted 03-13-2013 11:54 PM

Dumb question but… what if you wedged a board in the middle to force the bow out and left it for an extended period? Is there any chance the piece would remain square after the would completely settled?

-- There is a fine line between eroticism and nausea...

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Blackie_

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#10 posted 03-14-2013 12:03 AM

There are never dumb questions

I thought about doing that iamwelty

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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Blackie_

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#11 posted 03-14-2013 12:07 AM

Well Bill ya know instead of a hinged lid, I could make a lift off lid for it, do a trace and cut a 1/4” lip to put on the underside of the lid put a pull knob on top.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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Blackie_

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#12 posted 03-14-2013 12:08 AM

Thomas thanks for that info.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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gfadvm

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#13 posted 03-14-2013 01:56 AM

Your miters and splines all look intact so just make a top and a set of Patron/Griz hinges and say you planned it that way! I’ve been told that wood will NEVER dry adequately as long as it’s in log form. I stack and sticker my resawn wood in the shop attic where it’s almost like a kiln in the summer.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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Woodwrecker

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#14 posted 03-14-2013 02:06 AM

Could that have been a casualty of clamping?

-- All glory comes from daring to begin. ~ Eugene F. Ware

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Straightbowed

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#15 posted 03-14-2013 02:20 AM

has to be cut from the log and dried for at least a year I think could be wrong

-- Stevo, work in tha city woodshop in the country

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