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Forum topic by MarkSr posted 03-08-2013 06:45 AM 645 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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MarkSr

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03-08-2013 06:45 AM

Hey Guys, and all you pros out there, I have a quick question.

My shop is not yet completed, but I am starting on my woodworking bench. The frame is all cut and dry fitted,
needs some tweeking, but I’ll get it. “Seeing this is my first one”. Anyway:

My question: I plan to place dowels in my mortises & tendons. (DO I PUT THE DOWELS IN AT THE SAME TIME I AM GLUING UP PARTS OF THE FRAME OR DO I PLACE THE DOWELS AFTER THE GLUE-UPS HAVE SET OVER NIGHT?

I plan on using 3/8” wallnut dowels in yellow pine.

My first choice was to glue-up both sides at the same time, clamp and let set overnight, using Titebond II glue, then the next day drill, and glue my dowels and pound them in, until they bottom out, and cut flush, plane and finish.

or

Can I do it all at the first glue-up.

I would appreciate all you night owls out there to have the answer real quick.

Waiting for the correct way to accomplish this minor task.

Thanks
Mark

-- Mark, ”...NEWBEE: On the road to learning a lot; but; a lot more to learn…” ("My Granddad used to tell me, if you didn't learn something new today, it just wasn't worth getting out of bed")


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#1 posted 03-08-2013 07:04 AM

You mean pinned tenon joints?

I drill and install the pins after the glue dries.

Use a brad point bit for clean holes.

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#2 posted 03-08-2013 07:17 AM

Agree with Loren if simply pinning the tenons. If draw boring the joints, then you’d have to do it while glueing.

-- John, BC, Canada

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#3 posted 03-08-2013 07:20 AM

Thanks Loren, yes I do mean pinned tenon joints, and I thought I was on the right tack
waiting for the two ends to stay clamped overnight before I placed the dowels.

Thank you for your reply, when I finish I will post the pics. But, as it is going right now
it won’t be any time soon, even though I work on it every day. All the videos I watch seems
to take about three days and they are complete. I’ll be lucky to get completed in 3 months. LOL

Thanks for the reply, have a great day and better on tomorrow.
Mark

-- Mark, ”...NEWBEE: On the road to learning a lot; but; a lot more to learn…” ("My Granddad used to tell me, if you didn't learn something new today, it just wasn't worth getting out of bed")

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#4 posted 03-08-2013 07:30 AM

HI John,

Yes I do agree with both of you and Loren, and that was the way I was going to do it, just wanted to make sure and got the straight answers before doing it.

For the draw boring the joints, I have only read about them and I don’t think I am ready for that joint at this point.
Maybe on the next project I will try it, it really sound interesting how it pull the joints in with just a slight offset of the screw hole.

I added you as a Buddy if that’s okay with you, John and the same for you Loren, now that I am actually starting a project for the first time I need all the Buddy’s I can get.

Thanks again.
Mark

-- Mark, ”...NEWBEE: On the road to learning a lot; but; a lot more to learn…” ("My Granddad used to tell me, if you didn't learn something new today, it just wasn't worth getting out of bed")

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#5 posted 03-08-2013 07:36 AM

Sounds good Mark. A glued M&T joint is very strong by itself, and pinning it with a dowel adds a mechanical connection in case the glue fails 100 years down the road :)

-- John, BC, Canada

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#6 posted 03-08-2013 07:49 AM

Well, I have three granddaughters from my two daughters, both of my sons are married, but no kids, yet.

Who knows, one of my granddaughters (4 yrs.) loves staying with me in the shop. Maybe 20 yrs from now she
may enjoy my bench and just think she could pass it down to her son or daughter and my first wood working bench
could be around for 100 years.

Oh well we all can dream.

-- Mark, ”...NEWBEE: On the road to learning a lot; but; a lot more to learn…” ("My Granddad used to tell me, if you didn't learn something new today, it just wasn't worth getting out of bed")

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