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Pabs

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408 days ago

I have some kitchen cabinets that I’m reworking.. they have a nice solid wood face frames now (oak)
the doors now are overlay (on top of the face frames). I`ll be reworking those doors to be inset in those face frames..

I`ll be making frame and panel type doors..now my question is regarding the stiles and the rail dimensions. my face frames are 1 5/8” ...how wide should the stile and rail be ? should it be the same as the face frame? larger?

I think it might look funny if the stile and rail are wider than the face frame but the experts might disagree ; )

-- Pabs


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Cosmicsniper

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#1 posted 408 days ago

I think it would look fine. I prefer the look of wider rails and stiles anyway.

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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Pabs

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#2 posted 408 days ago

would look fine if it’s wider you mean

so I could do stiles and rails that would be 2” wide for instance

-- Pabs

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Cosmicsniper

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#3 posted 408 days ago

Yes, wider. 2” would look good, IMHO.

Do a quick google image search on “inset cabinet doors for kitchen.” Easily half of the images have that look.

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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DS

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#4 posted 408 days ago

It is fairly typical, in production doors, for stiles and rails to be 2 1/4” wide.
A more upscale door, and my personal preference, is for 3” or wider rails and stiles.

The main consideration when using wider rails and stiles is that on a drawer front the rails may need to be cut down to allow for a short height drawer. In the case of a typical 6” tall drawer front, I keep the stiles 3” and cut the rails to 1 3/4”. The stile will align nicely with the door below it. It’s a nice look IMHO.

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Pabs

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#5 posted 408 days ago

hey DS251…not sure I follow what you are doing for the drawer fronts…any pics?

-- Pabs

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Bill White

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#6 posted 408 days ago

Yep. 2” to 2 1/4” will be just fine. I have seen some wider and they look “clunky”. Smaller than 2” looks skimpy.
Guess it is a personal opin. issue.
Bill

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Cosmicsniper

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#7 posted 408 days ago

He means that to make matching drawer fronts, you have to make some concessions because of he extra wide rails and stiles of the cabinet doors. So, for the drawer fronts, you use thin rails (to accommodate a panel), yet make the drawer stiles the same as the door stiles.

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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DS

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#8 posted 408 days ago

Found this image online (not mine).
It shows the wider stiles and narrow rails of the drawer front.

It can even handle a raised panel, if you like.

-- "Hard work is not defined by the difficulty of the task as much as a person's desire to perform it.", DS251

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#9 posted 408 days ago

I’ve done two kitchens, I make my face frames 2”, and on my half overlay doors I make the Stiles and rails 2 1/4” but I think it’s more of a preference and also what type of door you are making be it inlay or overlay.

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canadianchips

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#10 posted 408 days ago

When doing shaker stile and rail I make the top rail same width as sides.(2 or 2 1/4”) Bottom one I make 2 1/2”. (Similar vision as looking at older panel and rail walk in door in house .)

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joeyinsouthaustin

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#11 posted 408 days ago

good advice above… my addition. on inset doors, it is usually the needs of your hinges, then the tenon, then the panel, then the design considerations that lead the choice of a stile width. (prioritized in that order)

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Pabs

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#12 posted 408 days ago

ah…now I get it…good idea and it does look good… better than just a solid front.

-- Pabs

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