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Forum topic by JuanGatico posted 03-06-2013 11:15 PM 2459 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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JuanGatico

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03-06-2013 11:15 PM

Topic tags/keywords: scraper question

Hi guys, please can anybody tell me what the difference is.

Thanks


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#1 posted 03-06-2013 11:23 PM

Probably just semantics anymore –
But in my humble understanding.

The Card scraper is just the flexible steel card with the raised burr.

The Cabinet scraper is basically a card/burr mounted in a plane body.. more like a big spoke shave.

So it is a with/without a holder discussion

This Cabinet Scraper is from Lee Valley/Veritas – - -see how the scraper actually is tilted forward to cut with the burr, compared to a smoothing plane whose blade that you would “plow” the wood with?

Not to ruffle any feathers – but the cabinet scrapers are great for some of the older folks that dont have great hand strength to hold the card scraper both bowed and at the right angle… there are also just aluminum card scraper holders.. but they all are much nicer to use if you have a larger surface… they also don’t get your fingers hot.

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#2 posted 03-06-2013 11:23 PM

A cabinet scraper is a card scraper that’s being used on a cabinet.

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#3 posted 03-06-2013 11:25 PM

Nothing…they are both the same tool…

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#4 posted 03-06-2013 11:30 PM

DrDirt got it right. With or without a holder. Cabinet scrapers have thumb screws to hold a subtle curve in the blade. With a card scraper you have to hold it in position with your thumbs. A plain card scraper works well, but can get hot quickly.

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#5 posted 03-06-2013 11:57 PM

IMHO RobynHoodridge has it right.
It’s like calling a sponge a “car washing sponge” if that’s the sponge you use to wash your car.
With that said, I’ve seen many references over the years to “handled scrapers” (like the Stanley 8) & 81) and of course, to scraper planes (112, etc.)
So to me, any contraption / fixture which lets you get a better hold on it, or which prevents burnt thumbs or has adjustability (but is not clearly a plane) is a “handled scraper”.

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JuanGatico

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#6 posted 03-07-2013 12:14 AM

Thank you guys for your quick and complete answers, now I have to decide between a VERITAS Cabinet Scraper and the VERITAS Scraper Holder, maybe both two, ha ha!

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#7 posted 03-07-2013 01:11 AM

you can get a nice KUNZ or some old Stanleys #80, #12, #112 at ebay, they can range between $15 up to $120 for the $112.

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#8 posted 03-07-2013 01:26 AM

The cabinet scraper will help you not to scallop the surface quite as much as you might with the card scraper. I use the card s raper much more than the cabinet scraper. I do have three different cabinetvscrapers with a ifferent burr in each.

-- Ron in Kokomo

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#9 posted 03-07-2013 01:31 AM

Juan
One of the more practical approaches to tool acquisition (I wouldn’t personally know anything about sane/rational approaches to tool acquisition) consists of buying tools as you need them—in other words, matching the tool to the particular task on a particular project. In this way, you not only avoid winding up with tools which gather dust, but you’ve spent your spokeshave allocation (for example) on a spokeshave suited to your particular project.
With this in mind, consider the project/types of projects for which you want a scraper. The Veritas scraper holder will not be able to get as close to a corner as will the Cabinet Scraper. To take this a little further, if you intend to scrape huge panels, you might even be better off considering this:
http://www.leevalley.com/US/Wood/page.aspx?cat=1,310&p=32635
just some food for thought …

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#10 posted 03-07-2013 05:08 PM

Basically, a card scraper and cabinet scraper are the same tool (kinda, sorta). A card scraper is a piece of spring steel that you flex to scrape the wood. It may or may not be in a card scraper holder (like the Veritas). A cabinet scraper is more like a plane. The tool does the flexing for you, you can adjust it to get more/less pitch, and you have a sole that stops you from digging in too far and screwing up the work piece. HTH

-- Dave, Colonie, NY

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