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Forum topic by tommyinVA posted 03-03-2013 08:22 AM 850 views 0 times favorited 21 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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tommyinVA

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03-03-2013 08:22 AM

Topic tags/keywords: question plane refurbishing

I’ll preface by saying that I just placed a similar post on SMC, but would really like as many educated opinions as possible….

So I’ve built up a small collection of some older user hand planes: Stanleys #4, 5, 6, and 7, along with a couple small block planes and a spokeshave.

None of them were in incredible condition and I wanted to run them through the full treatment to get them restored and up to working order. Bathed some pieces in electrolysis, used Evaporust on others, tried “The Works” a la Christopher Schwarz on one and have a couple in a molasses bath right now (we’ll see how that works). In any case, I wanted to remove any japanning that was on them because none of them are really collectible-grade and I’d rather have a fully cleaned plane that I know what has and has not been done to it.

Now I’m coming up to the point of refinishing and I’m not really SUPER in love with the look of black painted cast iron. I wanted my planes to have a look that would set them apart a bit, and I realized that I LOVE how the pieces looked after coming out of the electrolysis bath: bare cast iron with a beautiful gunmetal “industrial” look. And that got me to thinking…What if I “seasoned” them like a cast iron pan with some flaxseed oil (edible raw linseed oil) instead of painting with engine enamel? From what I’ve read, 5 or 6 coats gives a beautiful aged-looking patina, which I think would look just awesome.

But here’s where my big question comes in: To season properly and get the oil to polymerize effectively, you need to heat the iron to about 500 degrees in your oven….

THE BIG QUESTION: Do you guys think putting a plane body in a 500 degree oven for an hour, and then repeating 4 or 5 times, should cause any harm? How about the lever cap? (I have 1 from a newer #7 that looks like it has a zinc coating, which obviously wouldn’t be put in the oven) I wonder if the thin tensioning leaf might go “soft” from the repeated heatings.

Has anyone tried doing something like this? Has anyone even ever thought of it?

Thanks in advance,
Tommy

-- - Tommy


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racerglen

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#1 posted 03-03-2013 12:37 PM

Tommy, I’m no expert on cast iron, but I have a #5 that went through a house fire.’
Bought it for parts, but at one point wondered if the body was salvagable. Short answer..NO..
It had warped side to side and twisted front to back, It’s now screwed to a 2×4 as a mount for refinishing toes and such.

-- Glen, Vernon B.C. Canada

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tommyinVA

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#2 posted 03-03-2013 01:38 PM

Hmmm…a house fire would seem to be a bit more of an extreme of temp than a 500 degree oven, don’t you think?

-- - Tommy

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racerglen

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#3 posted 03-03-2013 01:50 PM

Just tossing it out, it would depend I guess, on where it was in the fire ;-0
It’d be an interesting experiment, I’ve seen the “seasoned” effect somewhere, cam’t remember where
There was also a posting on HPOD with a guy who’s used gun bluing as a finish.
(oh, and in my 1st reply, totes, not toes..the wife’s into the nail polish, me not so much..;-)

-- Glen, Vernon B.C. Canada

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#4 posted 03-03-2013 02:07 PM

I don’t think I’d risk it on a good plane until i’ve tested it. There are plenty of clear coat products. Brownells has gun smithing products I’ve used that only require 300 degrees. (I’ve never tried them on planes or cast)

What’s SMC?

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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tommyinVA

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#5 posted 03-03-2013 02:18 PM

Don-

Haven’t ever used gun blue or anything like that, but from what I’ve seen I think it makes it too dark for my tastes. I may have to just try and pick up a POS plane somewhere and just run it through the paces to see how much it warps the body, if at all….

SMC = Saw. Mill. Creek. another popular WW forum

-- - Tommy

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#6 posted 03-03-2013 02:24 PM

They have a rattle can finish that even comes in clear. I’ve got a couple of my deer rifles finished with it(only parts of them are clear) Its used on a lot of production rifles. Its easy and a lot more durable than I thought it would be.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#7 posted 03-03-2013 02:32 PM

you can always try it on a POS plane that ins unsalvageable in terms of other parts, see the effect of the treatment on it without worrying much. if it works – put the rest of the planes through the same process. if it doesn’t – go with another route

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#8 posted 03-03-2013 02:38 PM

If I were to try the oven routine, I think I’d insert the plane in the oven before turning it on. And I’d leave the plane in the oven for at least an hour after shutting the oven off.

-- I'm selfless because it feels so good!

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tommyinVA

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#9 posted 03-03-2013 02:57 PM

Anybody have a POS plane body they want to donate to the cause? :-)

-- - Tommy

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#10 posted 03-03-2013 03:51 PM

you have 7 posts in almost a year, it sucks when someone comes here just for selfish questions..

-- Nature is my manifestation of God. I go to nature every day for inspiration in the day's work. I follow in building the principles which nature has used in its domain" Frank Lloyd Wright

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#11 posted 03-03-2013 03:58 PM

I had the same thought after baking my Benchmark hand wheels w/ flax oil. They came out looking really good. In the end I was afraid to try it on my planes. I’m sure it would make them look really cool but I was afraid the heat would warp the cast iron.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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tommyinVA

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#12 posted 03-03-2013 06:28 PM

Wow Francisco, that’s funny. I was just thinking about how much it sucks when all someone has to contribute is an ignorant and vapid response. My post was asking for thoughts and opinions. If you consider that selfish, then by all means keep yours to yourself. I certainly have no need for them.

-- - Tommy

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#13 posted 03-03-2013 08:08 PM

Saw Mill Creek is waiting for you.

-- Nature is my manifestation of God. I go to nature every day for inspiration in the day's work. I follow in building the principles which nature has used in its domain" Frank Lloyd Wright

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#14 posted 03-03-2013 09:30 PM

I like the idea of using blueing on one of my planes. Maybe my little Shelton smoother. Sorry, I know this doesn’t actually contribute, but I actually really your idea. I would love to know how that works because all of my planes are pretty much users with only slight collector value.

-- Richard, Hot Springs, Ar -- Galoot In Training

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Francisco Luna

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#15 posted 03-03-2013 09:36 PM

I’m really sorry tommy, I’m nobody to say things like I did…...please forgive me, I’m just having rough days.

-- Nature is my manifestation of God. I go to nature every day for inspiration in the day's work. I follow in building the principles which nature has used in its domain" Frank Lloyd Wright

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