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Forum topic by steve posted 02-24-2013 12:45 AM 1369 views 0 times favorited 26 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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02-24-2013 12:45 AM

For a Natural Satin/semi-gloss, non-stained finish, I generally use Watco Danish Natural (2 coats), Arm-R-Seal (3-4 coats) sanding between each, then waxing with Goddards.
I get a nice finish, but it is way too involved, manually.

What do you use to obtain a Satin/Semi-Gloss finish without all the hand rubbed steps involved in what I have been doing…

Not spraying, as I don’t have a spray facility.

Hand done, but with less labor??

I’ve done other finishes, but want to hear yours…???

-- steve/USA


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#1 posted 02-24-2013 12:49 AM

Sorry no advice here….To me finishing is labor no matter the technique. I’d stick to what your doing. That dresser looks great. If all your projects look that good, then well it’s worth the work

-- Measure "at least" twice and cut once

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#2 posted 02-24-2013 01:06 AM

I hear ya…every piece I do with this technique look great…but it’s so involved, man. I want to find out if somebodies doing something less involved with good results…???
I wish I had the room for a HVLP spray area, but I don’t want to make a good thing (my finishes) worse…maybe the spray tech. will be less quality.
I hand rub every square inch of my work. It’s becoming exhausting.
It’s a lot of work for every single piece.
I have to find room for everything to dry, then keep a schedule of coats of all different parts…jeez

-- steve/USA

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#3 posted 02-24-2013 01:09 AM

Less work…same results???

-- steve/USA

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#4 posted 02-24-2013 01:12 AM

Anyone use Shellac & Linseed by hand?
Tell me your system…

-- steve/USA

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#5 posted 02-24-2013 01:30 AM

I don’t want to spray until I have the room. Soon (not soon enough) I will be moving my shop, and I hope to incorporate a decent spray booth; doing waterbournes. I have seen/sprayed a little bit of Lacquer, but , hey everybody does it, right? Why spray a lacquer when I can use new waterbourne varnishes?
I hear the General Finishes Enduro-Var is awesome…??? any comments on it?

-- steve/USA

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#6 posted 02-24-2013 01:39 AM

I do pretty much what you do without the danish oil. After the ArmRseal goes on you really can’t tell the difference that much as it’s oil too, so maybe skip a step there. I’d also add that I use Charles Niel pre color conditioner or shellac to seal it to prevent blotch, but I really only do that for soft wood. I try not to stain good hardwoods, else I wouldn’t buy good hardwoods.

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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#7 posted 02-24-2013 01:43 AM

you start with Arm-R-Seal?
I have been getting (slight) streaks with the wax…maybe I haven’t waited long enough, or rubbing too hard, or not letting it dry…it gets maddening after a while when it doesn’t look the same as other pieces.

-- steve/USA

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#8 posted 02-24-2013 01:46 AM

With cherry or walnut, yes, I go straight to armrseal, wiping with 300/400 between. Never saw a reason to do anything else after that.
I work wax down to a very thin coat and let it dry over night. if there is a small ball of wax anywhere, you’ll leave those darn streaks everywhere, especially if you use a buffer like I do.
This cherry cabinet is only armrseal.

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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#9 posted 02-24-2013 01:46 AM

I am going to try putting 1-2-3 coats of Arm-R-Seal, 320 grit between, and buffing the last coat with #0000 wool, then wax, 1 coat

-- steve/USA

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#10 posted 02-24-2013 01:49 AM

I do it all by hand, no buffer, I use T-shirt cloth for Arm-R and wax

-- steve/USA

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#11 posted 02-24-2013 01:51 AM

The wax is optional in my opinion, it dulls after a while. When I made that cabinet I stopped after the second coat and thought all I could do from here is mess it up, so I stopped and the finish is beautiful and hard.

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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#12 posted 02-24-2013 01:53 AM

So you applied 2 coats of Arm-R-Seal and that’s it? (sanding in between the first coat?)

-- steve/USA

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#13 posted 02-24-2013 01:55 AM

Looks awesome!

-- steve/USA

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#14 posted 02-24-2013 02:01 AM

Let me say this. That is a really nice finish. I wouldn’t change anything if I were you.
How do you prep?

-- Steve - "Never Give Up"

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#15 posted 02-24-2013 02:02 AM

I haven’t stained a project in years.
Generally I insist on the wood matching their ambitions for color. It has been a niche for my business, as people believe they no longer have to seek a color of preference by stain; instead they can choose a species of wood to find the color.

-- steve/USA

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