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Forum topic by TMoose posted 02-23-2013 10:37 AM 1478 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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TMoose

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02-23-2013 10:37 AM

I recently bought a Makita 2030 combo jointer/planer off craigslist. Seems like it could be a great machine, I did my homework, but I think I might have gotten burned. Needed a belt, The rollers needed recovering, and I noticed play in them so I assumed bearings as well… I got a good price, but…

When I got it apart tonight, I found the rollers had eaten all the way through the outside (non-jointer side) bearings and taken a bit out of the cast iron – about 1/8th inch heavy… so much for an egged out bearing. Oi. So now I need new rollers (they are pretty chewed up), bearings, and the drive belt, and I’m not sure if it’s even a good idea to proceed with this machine… Parts alone are looking like 500-600, without fixing the iron.

I’m thinking about a little fill in with some jb-weld? I’m not too big a fan of the stuff, but this seems like the application for it. A bit worried about what happens if this rattles out! Also concerned about having a void behind a part of the bearing if I were to do nothing but replace the bearing… Any opinions out there?? Anyone need parts :)?

A bit bummed…
Travis


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Dbear

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#1 posted 02-26-2013 03:25 PM

The chewed out cast iron could be repaired with the JB but check in the “Devco” line of epoxies and fillers. These are for heavy industrial use and I’d bet they have something for just that purpose. Only other solution would be weld-up and re-machine, costly but effective. The eposy ain’t cheap but cheaper than wel/machine work.

The bearings should be easy to find at a wholesale bearing supply such as Applied Industrial etc especially if you can read the numbers on the old ones. Rollers and belt, search/scour the web, you can find anything if you look hard enough. Good luck and keep us posted, maybe some pics?

-- Mark

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TMoose

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#2 posted 02-26-2013 06:24 PM

Thanks for that. Yes, I’ve got a photo…

Since it is tapered toward the outside, I’m not so worried about it dislodging and finding it’s way into the machine and I think I’ll use JB Weld, there is also a bit of the threaded opening (unused by the screw it was made for) there to key against. Bearings and rollers aren’t hard to find. I might need a chip breaker too… can’t imagine it should look like this!

I’m just a little worried that this machine is going to be a can of worms. Haven’t put any more than purchase price (150) into it yet… But it could be expensive if it is just plain worn out top to bottom. Not sure how to check bearings without the thing running. The feel plenty smooth…

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MrUnix

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#3 posted 02-26-2013 08:00 PM

The rollers are held in place by plane bearings (basically just a block of metal with a hole drilled in it), with springs above and a retaining bracket on the bottom. The bearings are about $6 a piece and you will need four (2 per roller). If you are missing the springs and retaining brackets, those are available as well for fairly cheap. I don’t think you need to worry about the chewed up cast iron, or maybe just fill it with some JB weld if it bugs you or allows the plane bearing to wobble. Here is a picture of what it should look like installed:

The remaining bearings for the cutter heads and motor are all off the shelf stuff and easily found. Given the condition of the machine, I would replace them regardless of condition. IIRC, a complete set including new ones for the motor set me back about $50 or thereabouts. The rollers themselves can be recovered for about $70 a piece. I had mine done at Western Roller and they came out better than new.

The one problem you may have is finding the drive belt.. they are no longer available from Makita, so you have to find some NOS stuff on the net somewhere and they can get expensive.. I’ve seen them sold on e-bay from time to time so just keep on your toes and keep looking.

These are great machines when they are maintained and working.. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a negative comment about them other than about the feed rollers needing to be recovered after many years. Heck, I have two! One in pristine condition and one in the process of being restored. Yours doesn’t seem to be a basket case by any means from the pictures you have, so I wouldn’t give up on it just yet.. and if you do.. yes, I could use a few parts :)

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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TMoose

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#4 posted 02-27-2013 05:04 AM

Thanks, I think I’ll keep going with it. I have also only heard good things about the machine.

Good to hear that the other bearings are off the shelf. I think My rollers have taken too much of a beating to be re-used… unless i take them to the machinist and have custom bearings made for a slightly smaller shaft – Something I would do if I thought it would be cost effective. Maybe I’ll swing by and get a quote.

Thanks for all the feedback, I’ll post when I have an update.

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#5 posted 10-12-2013 05:58 AM

Any updates? I’m thinking about doing similar repairs on my 2030.

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TMoose

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#6 posted 10-14-2013 12:38 PM

I made the jb weld repair, and actually found another machine for parts which saved me a bit. At that point I was able to run some material through to try it out. It came out very nice and worked very well. I sent the rollers in to be recovered and bought a full set of bearings. I haven’t put it back together yet but I will soon! Just yesterday I stripped the other machine so now I have a pile of spares at hand. Thank you everyone for your interest and help!

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#7 posted 10-14-2013 12:49 PM

Good news Moose.

I’d like one of those machines, but purchasing parts kinda makes me
think twice about it.

Glad yours is running well.

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#8 posted 11-14-2013 03:03 PM

TMoose – do you still have that Makita 2030 parts machine? I recently acquired a nice 2030, but the chain cover was damaged in shipping and it is no longer available. I tried every web parts supplier. So, I was wondering if you’d be willing to sell me the cover off your parts machine?

It’s part #2 in this diagram: http://www.ereplacementparts.com/images/makita/2030_(Type_1)_.pdf

Thanks
Michael

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