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RockyTopScott

1086 posts in 1985 days


426 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: tablesaw

I am considering buying a new tablesaw.

In the $3,200 -$3,500 range my 52” choices are:

Unisaw 5hp
Powermatic 3hp
Sawstop PCS 3hp
Something else

Which would you choose and WHY?

Have you say jocks.

Thanks RTS

-- “When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” ― Thomas Sowell


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SamuraiSaw

405 posts in 471 days


#1 posted 426 days ago

I recently bought the PM2000 (3hp) and have been completely satified. Over the years I’ve owned various brands including several Powermatic tools: saws, jointers, and planers. They are solid machines and on the rare occassion I’ve needed support they have been responsive.

My decision was based on prior experience and value of the machine.

-- Friends don't let friends use right tilt contractor saws......

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needshave

150 posts in 466 days


#2 posted 426 days ago

For the sake of product loyalty, I would say Unisaw. I have a 52” Unisaw that is now 10 years old and I have never had a problem with it. I love this saw.

I taught Industrial Arts (wood shop)for a number of years and The shop was furnished with a powermatic and Unisaw table saws. Neither had a large fence/table capability but they were strong and the equipment saw tremendous use and abuse. They both held up.

I hear unsettling things/rumors about delta, with dramatic price increases and perhaps an aggressive cost reduction program in the near future. You know what that means.

Previously this would have been my .02 cents worth. Today its .05 cents worth.

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RockyTopScott

1086 posts in 1985 days


#3 posted 426 days ago

The rumors about Delta cause me concern as well, I just can’t seem to resolve the internet buzz.

-- “When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” ― Thomas Sowell

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syenefarmer

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#4 posted 426 days ago

I would say that any of those listed saws would be a good purchase and pretty equal in quality. I guess my choice would be the Powermatic or Unisaw. I don’t like the politics behind Sawstop as a company so that immediately ruled them out for me. The Unisaw is undoubtedly one of the finest and legendary cabinet saws ever made however the current ownership of Delta leaves confidence in the future of that company a little in doubt. Powermatic builds excellent product and company wise seems very stable with little doubt that they’ll be around for a long time to come. Oops…....shouldn’t of said that, probably jinxed them now!

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RockyTopScott

1086 posts in 1985 days


#5 posted 426 days ago

What are the politics of Sawstop…this is the first time I have heard this sort of reference???

I just don’t like the changes required for dado blades.

-- “When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” ― Thomas Sowell

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Cosmicsniper

2199 posts in 1665 days


#6 posted 426 days ago

I own a Unisaw. Love it. I’d choose Sawstop.

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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newwoodbutcher

317 posts in 1357 days


#7 posted 426 days ago

I couldn’t justify spending more than the $1200 on the Grizzly 690. Now I’ve had it for three years and love it. Doubt I’ll ever need another one

-- Ken

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RockyTopScott

1086 posts in 1985 days


#8 posted 426 days ago

Cosmicsniper, I did not have Sawstop on my list until I visited Highland woodworking on Monday and got to lay my hands on one, the fit and finish is superb.

-- “When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” ― Thomas Sowell

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Loren

6780 posts in 2154 days


#9 posted 426 days ago

I bought a secondhand Felder K500. It works well
and for the type of work I do.

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IrreverentJack

723 posts in 1350 days


#10 posted 426 days ago

Scott, Surprised you never heard the Sawstop/Gass controversy. On one side are the folks that think petitioning the Consumer Product Safety Commission to strengthen the existing table saw safety standards to include flesh-sensing technologies is un-American and anti “personal responsibility”, especially if you are the inventor of that technology. The other side might think it’s more a “David and Goliath” kind of tale with an inventor quitting his job, mortgaging his house, borrowing money and finding investors to help him start making and selling the saw himself when he discovered the multi-billion dollar power tool manufacturers association decided it would be cheaper to defend against potential lawsuits than to license his patents and build a safer saw (think Ford Pinto). The arguments against have gotten quieter time go by. IMO, the Sawstop is a better buy. Being cheap, I am very happy with my used saws. -Jack

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Shawn Masterson

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#11 posted 426 days ago

I am not a fan of new or the SS. The SS just makes people complacent of the dangers of a TS (IMO). that being said I would go for this PM 66.

http://southbend.craigslist.org/tls/3616612641.html
happy hunting

I have the older version of this one and am in love. If you have 3500 to play with that leaves room for a planer, DC, BS, DP, and all sorts of other stuff. 3500 goes a long way in the old iron market.

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BroncoBrian

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#12 posted 426 days ago

I was in your boat 2 months ago. Decided on the sawstop and it is a beauty. The guys who talk about the politics of sawstop ARE the politics. I have seen all 3 in person within a couple days of each other and the SS is every bit as good and machined as well as either of the other two. I can also tell you the customer service is crazy good. I had a small chip on the powder coat of one of my rails, called to ask which paint i should touch it up with, they sent a new rail and a new cartridge for the 15 minutes of trouble to replace the rail when it comes. Was not asking for anything. Very helpful with some pointers getting things going as well.

Love the saw and my hands! Seriously now that I have it, i am so glad I do. I really feel like one major accident some day is avoided.

-- Stop thinking, let things happen... and be the ball.

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BroncoBrian

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#13 posted 426 days ago

Let us know what you do…. Off to Jackson Hole for a ski week and a cat-ski trip!

-- Stop thinking, let things happen... and be the ball.

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RockyTopScott

1086 posts in 1985 days


#14 posted 426 days ago

Bronco, do you change out the cartridge every time you use a dado blade?

-- “When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” ― Thomas Sowell

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Handtooler

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#15 posted 426 days ago

I own the Grizzly G0691, and find it super. Put it in your choices and add other tooling and accessories. Maybe outfeed table; router table, riser and dedicated router with your $3500.00.
Always add quality blades and maybe even an Incra miter gauge.

-- Russell Pitner Hixson, TN 37343 bassboy40@msn.com

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