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551 days ago

http://www.grizzly.com/products/3-HP-Dust-Collector-with-Aluminum-Impeller-Polar-Bear-Series/G1030Z2P

there is this grizzly locally for $250, used, in working condition.

in the last couple months of reading up on dust collection, 3HP seems perfect for me. not 5HP or 1HP.
i’m not looking for a “steal” of a deal to buy (tho would be nice), but something fair.
would the $250 price tag be fair?

as it stands now, i have 0 dust / chip collection. i did order the $50 dust deputy earlier this week for my shop vac.


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rum

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#1 posted 551 days ago

Around my parts thats a very fair price. I’ve seen a couple similar drop to $200 on craigslist but most are asking more than that. At 50% of retail in working condition I wouldn’t try to argue the price down to hard unless there were visible issues.

You might consider building a pre-separator and maybe upgrading to pleated filters if you can swing it (the filters will run around what this DC would cost you).

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#2 posted 551 days ago

Sounds like a steal to me.

-- Brian Timmons - http://www.BigTWoodworks.com

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#3 posted 551 days ago

+1 on pretty fair price, though 2.5 microns on the bags isn’t that impressive. i’d look for better after market bags at o more than a 1 micron rating which can hopefully be gotten more reasonably than similar micron rated cartridge filters. the impeller is aluminum, not steel, so it should be inspected for damage prior to to purchase. and it’s going to need it’s own 20A 220v line for operation. if you get it, i’d humbly suggest a modification like this:

http://lumberjocks.com/topics/40189

it’s easy and simple and really helps send fine dust to the collection bag rather than the filter, maintaining air flow for improved suction.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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Matt Przybylski

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#4 posted 551 days ago

Don’t mean to derail but I’m about to buy the dust deputy kit for $89. Where did you buy it for $50?

-- Matt, Illinois, http://www.reintroducing.com

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#5 posted 551 days ago

Not only is that my dust collector, that’s what I paid for it. I love mine.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it. - It's not ability that we often lack, but the patience to use our ability

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Loren

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#6 posted 551 days ago

I think it’s a great buy if you have the space for it and
space in your panel for a dedicated circuit.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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#7 posted 551 days ago

I’d say it was a heck of a deal. I just paid $145 for a 1 1/2hp Jet, then that much again for a cartridge filter. Course mine came with the 30 micron bag which certainly wasn’t up to par.

Certainly with the aluminum impeller, I’d look for a pre-seperator. You have the mini-dd and so do I. You’ll love it. I’m tempted to get their super DD and hook it up. They just made a plastic one, but aren’t offering it much less than the steel one.

May not be something your interested in right off and as long as you don’t see sending big chunks through the d/c, I think you could get by for a while.

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#8 posted 551 days ago

matt: you can get the entire kit (bucket, wheels, etc) for $89. i just bought the plastic funnel for $50 from them. as i have a couple 5gallon buckets laying around. i also have a plastic blue 55 gallon bucket i picked up for free thinking to use someday with a cyclone or general chip collection. it was free so couldnt pass it up with it’s potential.

i know it comes as factory default stuff. 5micron bag. yes, i’ll have to either vent it outside (50% likely), put the entire unit outside and enclose it with foam insulation boards to smack down the noise a tad. if i keep it inside, i’ll do the wynn catridge setup eventually.
i was unsure if $250 was a worth while price to chase after or not. i almost purchased a Jet 2HP for $100 a couple weeks ago, single bag, 110v.

in the next couple months, i’m going to electrically wire my shop. i already have 250’ of 12/2, a $500 gift card for home depot, and i’ve picked up probably 100’ of 3/4” flex conduit (joys of my daytime job). my jointer motor is 110/220, this DC (i hope it’s still around tomorrow) is 220. i’ll put a good number of 220v outlets in my shop, along with 110v in walls, a couple more in ceiling, with a new subpanel (looks like the price of a 100amp is $2 more than a 60amp)

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#9 posted 551 days ago

definitely check the impeller for balance and damage, any impact (flying chunks) could make an aluminum impeller a ticking shrapnel bomb. I agree if you could get it for 200 I would go for it. I would get rid of one side (the bags)and put a thien separator or an e-bay cyclone in it’s place for better separation and impeller protection.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cyclone-Separator-for-Dust-Collector-/281067825681?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4170f2aa11

then on the remaining side I would do a filter and wok setup. that would be the next best thing to a Clearvue. it would be cheaper – better to replace one side with thien than doing to filter & wok setups on both sides.

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Holbs

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#10 posted 551 days ago

could anyone upload pictures of a good looking impeller… as compared to a “omg dont buy it!” impeller?

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#11 posted 550 days ago

check for any unusual vibrations before you look at the impeller. if you visually inspect it look for bent fins, cracks, and or chunks missing. If you find any thing that concerns you, walk a way.

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#12 posted 550 days ago

I went out to the place. 2 brothers doing a cabinet business, 25’ish and 27’ish. originally started off in a garage and now have a 40’x40’ suite stuffed with … stuff. 2 grizzly 3HP dc’s, 1 3HP powermatic DC, 3 table saws, etc. barely enough room for their projects in the middle (looked like a large bunkbed project). We picked the better looking grizzly DC, started it up, checked vibration. but neither were the polar bear series (white), just the standard green grizzly.

18amps as compared to the polar bear series of 15amps. i could not find the model badge on the unit, but i assume it’s identical to the G1030z2, with dual cloth bags bottom and top (not plastic on bottom). if this is so, i’m hoping it has the steel impeller instead of aluminum. but no big deal as of yet because there is still time to make a cyclone or theil seperator by the time i wire a 220v outlet.

i did ask them what micron bag was installed. they looked perplexed. this is the 2nd cabinet shop i’ve seen in the last month with standard issue dust collection systems. no cyclone, no wynn type catridges. do most shops not care about wood dust?

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rum

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#13 posted 550 days ago

So I’m taking that to mean you got it? If so congrats!

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#14 posted 550 days ago

oh..sorry :) yep, i purchased it. i kicked myself in the butt for allowing another 3HP grizzly dual bag slip thru my fingers for $200 at an auction back in December. couldnt let this one slide.

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#15 posted 548 days ago

matt… my dust deputy arrived today. part # 149952 Molded Plastic DIY Dust Deputy $39 + shipping from woodcraft, tho order source was amazon. ordered on the 17th, arrived on the 25th (i was in no hurry to get it here)

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