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Forum topic by Benvolio posted 02-22-2013 01:40 AM 2091 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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02-22-2013 01:40 AM

... So I know Record were a british company making good quality tools at some point in history… but I’m guessing that their lack of website means they have gone to the wall at some point.

But I see their planes, clamps, etc are still being sold but alongside the brandname Irwin.

Can anyone enlighten me as to how they’re being manufactured these days??

The reason I ask is I bought a new irwin/record smoother a few months ago and was pleasantly surprised at the quality for the price. Today I picked up a Record jack plane that looks at least 30 years old, and unlike Stanleys, it seems the new Records in the shops are as good quality as they were back made in the day, so I’m curious about the company.

Ben

-- Ben, England.


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#1 posted 02-22-2013 03:26 AM

They have the same parent company, Newell Rubbermaid.

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#2 posted 02-22-2013 03:55 AM

Maybe slightly off topic, but Rubbermaid is just not a name I associate with cutting tools for some reason.

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#3 posted 02-22-2013 03:59 AM

Record hand tools, Record Marples chisels, and Record
Power machines were all made to a large extent in
the UK for a long time. Gradually the brand declined
and was acquired by the parent company of Irwin
who decided to rebadge the lines that were still
viable and (presumably) move most hand tool
production to Asia.

There’s a relationship between Record Power and
some more Germanish company (Metabo or
Electa Beckum I think) and it is possible the
machine part of Record was acquired by another buyer.

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#4 posted 02-22-2013 04:00 AM

Michael, Rubbermaid also owns Lenox…

They actually own a lot of different brand names.

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#5 posted 02-22-2013 11:23 AM

thanks a lot, Loren – very informative.

-- Ben, England.

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#6 posted 02-22-2013 11:49 AM

I’m a Record Planes Fan…....I love those tools!
David Lynch Web Site is a great source about Record Tools.
http://www.recordhandplanes.com/history.html

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#7 posted 02-22-2013 08:28 PM

I just completed a survey on hand tools sponsored by Newell Rubbermaid . I think they own or are partners with Newell.

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#8 posted 02-24-2013 08:21 PM

Francisco, I also love the record planes. I have six different ones and they tune up very nicely. I have found them in great condition for less $$$ than the equivalent Stanley planes. I cannot tell the difference in performance or quality from the Stanley Bailey planes that I have.

Ben, are the new ones still made in England?

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