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Forum topic by darthford posted 02-20-2013 09:06 AM 1280 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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02-20-2013 09:06 AM

The builders finished my new house and now that I’m settled in I just pulled the trigger on setting up a new workshop.

Phase 1

Powermatic PM2000 Table Saw – inbound
Powermatic 15HH Planer – inbound
Delta 18” woodworkers drill press – inbound
Albrecht 2MT keyless chuck – inbound
Leigh D4R Dovetail jig with accessory kit – has landed
Incra Miter5000 – inbound
Milwaukie D handle router – inbound
Forrest 70 tooth – has landed
Jasper router base plate adapter – has landed
Shopfox HD bench leg system and maple top – inbound
JDS 2hp Cyclone 2100 – out of stock, shipment arrives next week but there’s a waiting list :(

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#1 posted 02-20-2013 01:40 PM

Have you decided on a jointer? That is an impressive tool list you’ve started. Congrats on the new house and tools.

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#2 posted 02-20-2013 02:31 PM

Looks like you are off to a good start.

-- Jesse, Saint Louis, Missouri

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#3 posted 02-20-2013 03:49 PM

Pendledad I have not started my research on jointers yet, my last jointer was this Rigid which for the price was a damn good jointer, dead accurate out of the box. I’ll be looking for something a bit larger this time. I’m not married to Powermatic, Grizzly, Jet, or other brands are on the table. It will have a Byrd cutterhead for sure, I tend to nick jointer blades for some reason and spinning a couple inserts around is way easier than having to R&R planer knives. I have noticed jointers can be had used for very reasonable prices and they tend to be in like new condition. I saw a Powermatic on craigslist not long ago for around $600.

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#4 posted 02-20-2013 03:54 PM

Great start… Congrats. I have the 18 inch Delta Drill Press and love it. Incra I love using there stuff as well. Forrest blade are great. I just got my Woodworker II back from sharpening. Look fwd to seeing your posts.

-- Ken, "Everyday above ground is a good day!"

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#5 posted 02-20-2013 04:05 PM

Tools that didn’t make the cut…

1. Porter Cable Omnijig – I owned one of these $650 beasts a few years ago, complete pile of junk. A lot of great design ideas that were very poorly manufactured. I have never seen a tool so out of square and warped. I used to be a machinist so I had it shimmed and jiggered but still had to fight it, I wanted to drop kick that thing out of the garage.

2. Grizzly G0453Z – I owned a G0453 a few years ago and installed a Byrd cutterhead it in. It had a couple flaws, the serrated outfeed roller would mar the surface of the wood, it was hard to see until you slopped some finish on the wood then there would be patches of serrations to sand out which on the hard figured maple I was using required serious sanding. I also noticed chips would get crushed into the surface of the wood denting it even though I had a 1200cfm JDS canister dust collector connected directly to the machine. I also found the straight dust port was in the way.

The Powermatic 15HH has a smooth outffeed roller, at least that’s what the specs say. That its manufactured in the same factory as the Grizzly and that every other brand planer I looked at had serrated outfeed rollers I don’t know I’m hoping the Powermatic is smooth like they say it is. The PM also angles the dust port off to the side, has longer extension tables, a Baldor motor, and a Byrd cutterhead vs the Grizzly knock off. Grizzly is also pretty proud of their inserts at $6 a piece. Is that worth the extra $1,215 for the PM, maybe but I balked for a few weeks at the PM’s $3,060 price tag. Powertools overall are significantly up in price from just 3-4 years ago.

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#6 posted 02-20-2013 04:07 PM

I picked up a practically new powermatic 54HH helical head 6” jointer off CL last week and its amazing. It has me considering switching my planer to a helical its so nice. Its a lot less noisy then my old grizzly, I can use it without hearing protection no problem. I actually held a conversation with someone while jointing. I havent used any other companies helical jointers so I cant compare it to any others but for what it is its stellar.

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#7 posted 02-20-2013 04:13 PM

Ken that’s good feedback on the Delta, it seems to be popular and with the Albrecht chuck should be even better. Amazon had like 14 of them a couple weeks ago then 9, 4, 2 this weekend. I drug my feet and they were sold out when I tried to place my order yesterday ETA 1-4 months argh! I found another one at Home Depot of all places, its an on-line only item they had 20 in stock but that mistake cost me $105 more.

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#8 posted 02-20-2013 04:24 PM

tsdahc wait until you hear a 15 planer with a Byrd cutterhead, way less noise my JDS dust collector was way louder than the planer.

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