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Chuckwiser

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02-20-2013 09:05 AM

I am looking at replacing my Old Rockwell 12” wood lathe from the early 50’s. She is starting to wear out and l am ready for a upgrade. I have replaced the bearings and belts and done all I can but she is about done. I am torn between what lathe I should get. I am looking mostly at the Jet 1442 and the 1642 but the $900 or so price difference has me pulling my hair out. I did also look at the Grizzly lathes but the ones I saw only had a one year warranty and the Jet has a 5 year and better overall reviews. I am more leaning towards the 1442 because its a big upgrade from what I have been using the past two years and I can also get it with no interest for a year to make a payment plan easy. I have read many people turning mid size bowls and have been happy even with it having the reeves drive and the lowest speed 450. My Rockwell’s lowest speed is 660 which has a reeves drive type of system. I guess I am more looking for if you think I would be happy with the Jet 1442 or not. Money does not grow on trees where I live. Thanks for any input. Please just don’t say 1642 we all know its a better machine.


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#1 posted 02-20-2013 11:21 AM

Go to www.woodturner.org for all the info you need.

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#2 posted 02-20-2013 01:35 PM

I think that’s more a question of what kind of turning do you do? If you like to do bowls and platters and such, you’ll benefit from more swing over the ways or outboard turning capacity. Both Jets have swiveling and sliding headstocks, so you can turn outboard off the ways. The 1442 only has a 1 HP motor, though. Have you looked at the Nova 1624-44? No variable speed, but the belt changes are said to be easy, and it has more HP and a lower min speed.

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#3 posted 02-20-2013 02:44 PM

A reconditioned NOV 1624 will run you $950 without shipping.

http://www.novatoolsusa.com/RECONDITIONED-NOVA-1624-44-Wood-Turning-Lathe-24146-R.htm

Not sure will finds a Jet 1442 for less than $1.500 unless on sale. A few places sold them without stand for $1,100 couple of years ago. American reeves drives more reliable than Asian.

Have you looked Rikon’s 1642 lathe requires 220V electric service. Essentially same as Jet 1642, except headstock does swivel.

http://www.woodcraft.com/product/2084034/36867/rikon-16-x-42-heavy-duty-lathe-model-70300.aspx

If do not mind staying with 12” swing lathe Delta & Jet mini lathes with EVS might be the ticket. Can always add a bed extension later on.

Not sure about payment plans think can find something that works for you.

-- Bill

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Chuckwiser

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#4 posted 02-20-2013 09:14 PM

I have never used a Nova lathe so I can’t say but I just like the build of the jet lathes better. I do a little bit of it all. Bowls,Pens,Pepper Mills, and plan on doing some spindle work too. Thanks for your thoughts.

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#5 posted 02-21-2013 02:31 AM

I have a 110V Jet 1642 and love it. If live near a Woodcraft store might ask if they are selling any returns or demo lathes. At one time Amazon had a few used lathes (returns) for few dollars less. Do not know if have a reconditioned center might be worth checking out.

Not a big fan of Nova lathes because of cost optional accessories. If you can get by without accessories not a bad medium duty lathe.

-- Bill

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#6 posted 02-21-2013 07:51 PM

It sounds like for your turning style and budget, you’d be better off buying the Jet 1442. Look at your local Craigslist, I see this Jet 1442.

http://norfolk.craigslist.org/tls/3627039064.html

It comes with a few extras. Looks a bit beat up. Perhaps you can talk them down from $1200.

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#7 posted 02-21-2013 08:30 PM

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#8 posted 02-21-2013 08:53 PM

Kreegan I did see that 1442 on craigslist but its beat up and I already have all the turning tools and chucks so I never looked twice its over priced just like Wildwood said. I almost want to stay away from a used lathe because I don’t want to get someones lemon lathe with problems. I would really love to have the 1642 just don’t know if I can come up with the extra cash but like some say in two years you will have never missed it and be much happier.

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#9 posted 02-21-2013 09:25 PM

I was kind of in the same boat as you. I started with a Harbor Freight 65345 10×18 mini lathe that I’ve outgrown. I don’t have 220 and we rent, so adding it isn’t really an option. So that limits me to 110V lathes. I looked at Jet, Nova and Grizzly lathes. After spending a lot of time looking at them, I decided that they all had limitations that I just really didn’t want to live with. If I were going to break the thousand dollar mark on a lathe, I want it to be a lathe that I’m in love with and will keep for years and years.

So I decided to get a better mini/midi lathe. First I started with a Delta 46-460 because so many people have that lathe and love it. Well I got a total lemon and Delta customer service/warranty service was pathetic. So I returned it. I was just going to make do with my HF lathe until we were in a house of our own, but then I started looking at Penn State lathes when I was surfing for something else there. So I decided to get their 12” Turncrafter Commander lathe with extension bed. It cost me a little over 500 shipped, but it’s a lathe that I can turn on for a few more years that will do 90% of what I like to do.

Once we have a house of our own with 220, I’m going to get a Robust lathe. They’re extremely expensive, but incredible lathes, and most importantly to me, made in the USA. I think with lathes, you kind of hit a pricepoint where if you’re going to spend that much money, you want to spend it really well and not regret it.

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Chuckwiser

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#10 posted 02-21-2013 09:59 PM

The Robust lathes are great but like you say very expensive. I got the old Rockwell I have now because I did also want something made in the US of A. It makes me sick to see that 99.9% of everything has gone to overseas. I do own my own house and have a nice shop and whatever I get I want to last 30+ years which things are not made to last that long anymore. I do have 220 going to my shop but don’t have any 220 outlets. I ran a 100 amp service off my my 200 amp main to the shop to make sure I would have room to grow. I get to the point where my head just spins and everyone has different thoughts and feel like pulling my hair out. Good luck Kreegan on getting your own place soon. I have been working on my old 1923 farm house for the last 10 years.

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#11 posted 02-22-2013 06:03 AM

Not sure anyone would want to pay more than $250 to $350 for used Jet 1442.

You’d be holding your breath forever waiting for one at that price around here. And if one did pop up on Craigslist it would be sold within a minute or two, literally.

-- |Statistics show that 100% of people bitten by a snake were close to it.|

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