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Forum topic by JohnChung posted 02-19-2013 04:36 PM 880 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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JohnChung

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02-19-2013 04:36 PM

Hi,

I have a post war Stanley 4 plane. The default plane works okay on soft(meranti) and hard wood(resak). So here
is the question. Would it benefit me to BUY a veritas/hock/LN replacement blade? What improvement can
I expect from the replacement? Do I need to get a new cap iron too?

Thanks,
John


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bondogaposis

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#1 posted 02-19-2013 05:18 PM

I believe the after market plane blades are made from superior steel to OEM’s. The only one that I’m personally familiar w/ is the Hock blades. They are thicker and that helps too. You may also have to file the mouth of your plane a bit wider to accommodate the thicker blade. I have put Hock blades in 5 of my old Stanleys and only had to file one mouth.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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Bill White

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#2 posted 02-19-2013 05:18 PM

I have never had a problem with the original Stanley irons. I keep my planes well tuned and sharp.
Yes, there are irons from more sophisticated metals, but the price/value relationship isn’t there for me.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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paratrooper34

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#3 posted 02-19-2013 05:30 PM

John, I have a bunch of planes and they are all users. I have two that are equipped with Hock blades, the rest with originals, and to be honest, I see no difference between how they perform as opposed to the originals. I do have one Veritas A2 blade in the plane I use for my shooting board and the only difference there is it holds an edge longer, but that is due to a different type of steel used in those blades. The Stanley, Record, Millers Falls, etc blades work just fine. Personally, unless I was to break, lose, or wear out an original blade, I will not spend the money on aftermarket blades again.

-- Mike

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David Kirtley

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#4 posted 02-19-2013 05:30 PM

If you are replacing the iron because it is worn out or pitted, by all means get one of the good blades. The price difference is not that great and it will last a lifetime. The original irons are perfectly fine. You will not really see much difference. The stock cap iron will work with either the old or the replacements.

The main difference with the new high quality blades is more about quality control over the modern stock replacements. Most of the old irons were very good. The modern “stock” replacements, can vary from perfectly fine to garbage. The quality replacement irons you mentioned will have some minor esoteric differences in metallurgy for edge retention, hardness, and resistance to rust but are all fine blades. My personal preference is for Hock blades.

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Fred Hargis

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#5 posted 02-19-2013 05:37 PM

I just bought one of the Veritas blades for my (only) Bedrock. It’s quite a bit thicker, and much harder (A2) but to be honest, the shavings are about the same. Someone else said it, if you need to replace the blade they are nice. But the OEM blades are good as well.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, we sent 'em to Washington.

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Roswell

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#6 posted 02-19-2013 06:18 PM

Same as above. I’ve got type 13 No’s 3 and 4. The 3 has a nice thick A2, and the four is stock. I had to file the 3 to accommodate the thicker A2. It stays sharp longer, and uses the OEM cap, but in the end I’m glad I got it on sale, or I might have felt like I wasted my money. They both work well when sharp.

-- _Never argue with an idiot. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience_

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JohnChung

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#7 posted 02-20-2013 02:04 AM

Thanks guys, I was determining if the shavings was any different between OEM and aftermarket. I work with
wood(Meranti) that contained silica…... It is tough on the blade. In due time I will upgrade for the sake of
edge retention and Stanley OEM blades are tough to obtain them in Malaysia….. The cheap chinese blades does
not last long enough on what I need to do (That is within one session!).

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sikrap

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#8 posted 02-20-2013 03:33 PM

I’d agree that you should go ahead and use the original blade. When it wears out and you need a replacement, look at the PMV-11 from Lee Valley. Its touted as having the best of both edge retention and ease of sharpening.

-- Dave, Colonie, NY

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Francisco Luna

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#9 posted 02-20-2013 04:29 PM

better steell with superior hardness (Rc60-62) that means a long lasting edge. BUT they take more effort to sharpen.

If you read Ron Hock’s intro at his Irons’ page, he says about stanley blades they are all Chrome Vanadium Junk….I agree!

New Chip breaker?......nah!....are you gonna expend $60-70 on a $20 Plane?. Stanley Cap Irons/Chip Breakers do a fair enough work at any plane.

-- Nature is my manifestation of God. I go to nature every day for inspiration in the day's work. I follow in building the principles which nature has used in its domain" Frank Lloyd Wright

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