A question about liquid hide glue

When the glue is fresh, you can carefully remove excess with COLD water. Try to avoid using more than necessary. When cured you can remove excess with HOT water, same cautionary note. Once cured liquid hide glue is similar to hot hide glue and will require both heat and moisture to soften or reverse it.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

Will the cold / hot water sufficiently remove the glue so that it will not show through a finish?

-- Jesse, Saint Louis, Missouri

Glue some scraps and test your results. Make sure you have some intentional squeeze out.

-Rocko

-- -> Malta, IL -<

I have never used liquid hide glue, but I use Hot hide glue almost exclusively now. You need to remove the dried excess (for obvious reasons), but you don’t need to go nuts sanding like you do with PVA style glues. As long as your surface is smooth, HHG has the same effect on the wood and stains/finishes that water does – which is to say it does not affect it at all.

-- http://www.etsy.com/shop/KandJWoodCrafts

Yes the hot water should remove all the glue. As Joe said, you must remove it all, but the difference from pva glue is that hot water will re-liquify it, dilute it, and allow it to be wiped off. You just don’t want to go soaking the new joint down with too much hot water.
It’s a good idea to experiment with both the glue removal and a dis-assembly of a trial joint. Soaking a hide glued joint to dis-assemble it will give you a good idea of how waterproof it is. It will take some time and effort and require a good bit of both heat and moisture. Contrary to popular belief, well cured hide glue will resist a lot of water.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

Check out the article in FWW, April 2013, pg. 34.

-- Mike - Northern Upper Michigan

Jesse
what most roll top desk have on the tambour(the roll up part) is canvass not paper. Here’s some plans that show how it works.
http://www.woodsmithshop.com/download/102/102-rolltopdesk.pdf

And a video of someone making a small tambour box.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEla47R_m9k

-- W James Brokenbourgh Custom furniture maker http://artisticwoodstudio.com/

Thanks for the replies.

A follow-up question: Since I am just getting started exploring hide glue possibilities, I don’t want to spend money on a glue pot. Is liquid hide glue close enough to hot hide glue so that I can learn without the startup cost of hot hide glue?

-- Jesse, Saint Louis, Missouri

Jesse…go to the dollar store and get a little crock pot. It’s perfect for a glue pot and shouldn’t cost more than a few bucks. Or, “borrow” your wife’s. ;)

Liquid Hide Glue has a long open time, which is different from the much faster hide glue. Likewise, it has a short shelf life. Otherwise, I believe the two are quite similar in most regards.

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com