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Forum topic by Kyle posted 02-17-2013 08:39 PM 886 views 0 times favorited 19 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Kyle

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02-17-2013 08:39 PM

Topic tags/keywords: bandsaw

I have a chance of a really great deal on craigslist. This bandsaw is for sale for $200 like new and comes prewired to 220v. All of my woodworking is done in my girlfriend’s garage which doesn’t have any 220v outlets. Since I don’t live in her house, I can’t exactly ask her to have an electrician come in and change out her wiring and all that so, will I be able to rewire this bandsaw to 110v and get away with it? Thanks for any help, guys.

-- Kyle


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Loren

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#1 posted 02-17-2013 08:52 PM

It’s rated at 20 amps at 110v. Check the breakers and if there
is a 20 amp breaker in there you may be able to start and run
the saw on that circuit.

Some garages have a circuit for a dryer and those are often
30 amps at 110v. You could definitely run that saw
well on such a circuit.

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#2 posted 02-17-2013 08:54 PM

From your link:

SPECIFICATIONS:
•Motor: 2 HP, 110V/220V, single-phase, TEFC capacitor start induction, 1725 RPM, 60 Hz, prewired 220V
•Amps: 20A at 110V, 10A at 220V

If this is the saw then a little internal wiring changes will get you going (a few Grizz fans here that can explain whether you need a different switch and/or pigtail). Amp draw of 20 at 110v might be a problem though. Most garages I have ever seen won’t handle that (cheap builders, in and out hoping nobody notices).

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Kyle

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#3 posted 02-17-2013 10:22 PM

The breakers are 20 amps in the garage. Still waiting for a call from the guy so I can go see it.

And thank you Loren and teejk for your input.

-- Kyle

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bullhead1

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#4 posted 02-17-2013 11:28 PM

Marry the girlfriend, move in, wire the garage for 220v. At that price for that saw it might be worth it! Good luck and I hope the deal is as good as it seems.

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teejk

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#5 posted 02-18-2013 12:28 AM

bullhead…marry her so he can wire the garage? for a $200 saw??? that will be the most expensive saw he will ever buy…just saying…

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teejk

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#6 posted 02-18-2013 12:40 AM

and Kyle…the “rewire” on a dual voltage motor is usually pretty simple. But be prepared for the other parts… that’s why my stock 120v Delta machines are still running at 120v…new switches and pigtail wiring would be needed and very pricey stuff. perhaps thats a function of moving up instead of down. I’m surprised that the Grizz fans haven’t chimed in yet there.

and I’ll just add…it’s 120/240v, not 110/220!!! and a 20a draw might still give you some problems depending on what else is on the circuit.

but it sounds like you are getting a kick-butt saw at a great price…looking forward to the “gloat” post.

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#7 posted 02-18-2013 02:36 AM

A 20 amp motor will probably have problems starting on a 20 amp circuit. Garages are usually wired with 15 amp. The 20s in a residence go to appliance circuits; kitchen, washer, ect.

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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Kyle

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#8 posted 02-18-2013 02:37 AM

okay so… what do you mean by “problems?” Like I’ll trip the breaker while resawing a 10” wide board?

I’m not ready to do a gloat post because I talked to the person selling it about an hour ago and I’m going to meet her next Saturday. I still haven’t seen the condition of this saw yet. What she could tell me was her mom started a woodworking business in 2006 and she died unexpectedly and ever since then, the tools that are for sale have been in a climate controlled storage facility (about 3 blocks from my place).

So now I was wondering if we could add on to this forum and I could ask for some more advice…

With what I just told you guys, what kind of questions would you ask her if you were to meet up and look at this saw? It’s been in storage since 2006 so, what kind of things would you look at to make sure it’s worth buying? I’ve never owned a bandsaw before so I don’t know what kinds of things can go wrong with them.

Are there certain parts that can be too expensive to repair? Do the tires go bad when they’re not being used? If there’s rust on it, how far is too far? Any other advice you guys can give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so far. :)

-- Kyle

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Shawn Masterson

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#9 posted 02-18-2013 02:41 AM

specs from the grizzly page say on 110 you need a 30 amp circuit Power Requirement….......................................................................................... 110V or 220V, Single-Phase, 60 Hz Prewired Voltage…............................................................................................................................................... 220V Full-Load Current Rating….................................................................................................. 20A at 110V, 10A at 220V Minimum Circuit Size…....................................................................................................... 30A at 110V, 15A at 220V Switch….......................................................................................................................... ON/OFF Push Button Switch Cord Length…......................................................................................................................................................... 6 ft. Cord Gauge…................................................................................................................................................. 14 AWG Plug Included…........................................................................................................................................................ No Recommended Plug/Outlet Type…................................................................................. L5-30 at 110V, 6-15 at 220V

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#10 posted 02-18-2013 02:43 AM

Problems like the breaker will probably trip trying to start it.

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#11 posted 02-18-2013 02:45 AM

Dude. It’ll be gone if you wait ‘til Saturday. Some guy will coax her into seeing it before you do and it’ll be gone.

If she’s three blocks away, get your $200, knock on the door, and cement the deal. At that price, there’s nothing that couldn’t be fixed.

As for the whole living with the girlfriend thing…I’ve never thought that to be a good thing. But I suppose if the girlfriend is cool enough to let you spend time woodworking rather than spending time with her, then perhaps she is a woman worth marrying.

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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gfadvm

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#12 posted 02-18-2013 02:55 AM

I would run (not walk) to close that deal! I needed another 220 circuit in my shop and my electrician made one by using 2 110s from different circuits. I’m not electrically inclined but this seemed pretty simple to me. Might look into that option. If you change that saw from 220 to 110 you will need a few conversion parts. If you go the 110 route, call Grizz tech support and they will fix you up. As far a storage deterioration, I don’t see that being a problem. Surface rust is easily dealt with and the tires should be fine. Hurry before someone else gets there!

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#13 posted 02-18-2013 03:08 AM

+1! I would definitely run and grab it!! But, then, I can wire it myself ;-))

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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Grandpa

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#14 posted 02-18-2013 03:17 AM

gfadvm, you can do that as you described as long as you get the two 110V legs out of the panel. The 220V breaker needs the correct 2 legs. The toggles on the breaker must also be bonded together. a nail through holes in the toggles will not meet code as I remember. I guess according to teejk is correctly 120/240 but mine is 130/260 according to my Fluke meter. Never know because it varies but I guess you average it across the nation.

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Kyle

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#15 posted 02-18-2013 03:50 AM

The lady selling it lives in Seattle, an hour and a half north of me and she said she’ll be making the trip next Saturday. The place that the bandsaw is being stored is 3 blocks away from me. If I could have my way, I’d tell her to call the storage place and have the storage keeper guy open the door for me so I could take a gander. It seems like too good of a deal to be true. We’ll see though.

Jay—I don’t live with my girlfriend, my tools do. She has her own house and I have an apartment. She is a very kind lady.

gfadvm—I’ll be sure to call the tech support if I need to.

Topa—I better not find out you snagged it before me. :)

-- Kyle

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