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MT_Stringer

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563 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: harbor freight dust collector phil thien baffle separator

Well, it ain’t pretty, but I got it up and running. It is a little different than what you might expect. Just like Tim the Tool Man Taylor, I modified it a little.

I fabricated a base for the motor/blower by laminating two pieces of 1/2 inch Baltic Birch. Then I drilled four mounting holes so I could screw it to the garage wall with three inch lag bolts.

To mount the motor/blower, I pre-drilled holes and used 3/8 inch bolts and t nuts to create mounting studs. I put a neoprene washer on each stud then mounted the blower and bolted it down with flat washers and lock washers under the nuts.

I made a pre-separator by locating a 30 gallon plastic drum and installed the 4 inch Dust Right component kit from Rockler.

I wanted the drum to sit on the original HF frame, so I had to make an extension for it. I used more 1/2 in BB and shimmed it in several places with 1/4 inch ply so it would sit level above the bolt heads for the casters.

With a little help from my wife, I managed to sit the motor/blower frame 50 inches above the floor on a ledger board and she drove the lag bolts home with an impact wrench. :-)

I got the hoses hooked up but I am not happy with the first fit. I hope to find a 5 inch to 4 inch single fitting to tie the hose from the drum to the suction of the blower. And the 5 inch hose is just a tad short.

I have it running and separating the dust. I cleaned the floor and emptied a bucket of dust from the Bucket Max vac.

Next up is to order a canister filter from Wynn Environmental and get some 5 inch hose while I am at it.
And, at first opportunity, build a separator baffle based on the Phil Thien principal.

When I am finished, the separator/dust collector will sit against the wall and won’t take up much room in my one car garage/work shop.

Still have a few leaks to trace out and seal but overall, I am happy with the “smoke” test!

Thanks to all the input from fellow LJ’s and especially b2rtch

Note: I have the 4 inch hose connected to a 4 inch manifold which has a couple of take off’s including a 4 inch (for planer, and joiner) and a 2 1/2 for the router table. The table saw connection is also connected. Blast gates make it easy to change tools.

Motor/blower test fit on custom wall mount.

Support base for the drum.

Pre-separator test fit.

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas


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tuffruss

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#1 posted 563 days ago

Neat idea I wouldn’t have thought of that it sure saves a lot of valuable space. Did you make your barrel separator?

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JesseTutt

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#2 posted 562 days ago

Good start, you will love the wynn filter!

-- Jesse, Saint Louis, Missouri

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MT_Stringer

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#3 posted 562 days ago

“Did you make your barrel separator?”

Yes, using the kit from Rockler.

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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kdc68

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#4 posted 562 days ago

Looks like a good set up. Can you answer a couple of questions?
- The HF and the Rockler’s are all 4” fittings. If so why did you convert to 5” from the blower to the drum?
- The HF dimensions according to their website is 33×22 x 75-1/2. Is the footprint of your set up smaller or bigger?
The reason for asking is I’m interested in what you and others have done to improve the HF collector. And I have limited room in my little workshop.

-- Measure "at least" twice and cut once

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JesseTutt

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#5 posted 562 days ago

kdc68, the best improvement I did to my HF dust collector was adding the wynn 35a nano filter in place of the top bag. It catches a lot more fine particles than the bag did. I had problems getting the filter to seal against the sloped top; I ended up adding weather stripping and a band clamp.

-- Jesse, Saint Louis, Missouri

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kdc68

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#6 posted 562 days ago

JessTutt...Yep looked at the Wynn website yesterday. I like the fact that their products are reasonably inexpensive. Thanks for the tip

-- Measure "at least" twice and cut once

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MT_Stringer

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#7 posted 562 days ago

@kdc68 – The suction inlet to the blower is 5 inches in diameter. The two 4 inch hose ports merge into a five inch port which fits over the inlet. The blower discharge port is also 5 inches and connects to the dust collector with a 5 inch hose.

I don’t recall but I think I extended the footprint by 5-8 inches with the plywood deck. I will measure and report back.

And yes, the Wynn 35a Nano canister filter is the final part of my puzzle. I should have it in place in a week or so.

Edit: I was at my local Woodcraft looking for 5 inch hose. The salesman doubted me so he removed the clamp off of a similar Jet, and sure enough, it is a 5 inch hose also. :-) I think his name was Thomas…”Doubting Thomas”. :-)

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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MT_Stringer

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#8 posted 562 days ago

Overall length is now 40 inches.

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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kdc68

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#9 posted 562 days ago

MT_Stringer- thank you for checking the footprint measurements and explaining the 5” inch hose. The info on the HF website about their collector said inlet and outlets were 4.”

-- Measure "at least" twice and cut once

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MT_Stringer

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#10 posted 553 days ago

And now for an update. I have been busy with several projects and haven’t had time to build the Thien separator. When the plastic drum got about 1/3 full, the chips started carrying over into the plastic bag. Now it is almost 2/3 full. I emptied the drum and went back to work. Profit from my projects will easily fund the Wynn canister filter.

As soon as I can, I will modify my drum lid to add the inner part of the separator.

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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ldl

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#11 posted 552 days ago

Stringer how did you remedy the 5” hose problem?

I have this same setup except my DC sets on the original cart. I have a 55gl drum with the Rockler separator kit to the side. I want to make a Thein sys and put over the drum with HFDC on top. Thinking of mounting it all back on original cart with a few mod.

-- Dewayne in Bainbridge, Ga. - - No one can make you mad. Only you decide when you get mad - -

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MT_Stringer

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#12 posted 552 days ago

”Stringer how did you remedy the 5” hose problem?”

Also, I will be ordering a canister filter from Wynn Environmental. They also sell the 5 inch hose so that is my plan – order it at the same time.
Mike

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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MT_Stringer

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#13 posted 545 days ago

I ordered some 5 inch hose from Grizzly and it was delivered today. I cut it to fit between the blower and the dust collector. That allowed me to slightly reposition the cart closer to the garage door and against the side wall.

While I was emptying the clear plastic bag I thought HMMM…
Yep my 42 gallon 3 mill trash bag fit perfectly. I used some scotch tape to help hold it in place while I wrestled wuth the clamp.

Don’t laugh, the bag is workin just fine so far. I will post an update if the bag craters on me.

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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Alan72

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#14 posted 545 days ago

Stringer I use the same step up as you except I vent outside. I also have the same problem with the dust collector pulling the saw dust out of the drum and in the back yard. I think that’s the problem with Rockler’s separator system. When money permits I would like to get a Dust deputy.

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MT_Stringer

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#15 posted 544 days ago

Thanks Alan. I hope the Thien type separator will help eliminate most of the carryover. I got the mdf, just need the time to measure and cut out the inner piece and mount it to the drum lid.

I am getting there, slowly but surely.

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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