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ubermick

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02-12-2013 06:22 AM

Ignore this if you’re sick of these threads (and I can understand why!), with my apologies!

So based on advice from the jocks, I need a better table saw. But the budget is tight, and so am scouring Craigslist for deals. Here’s one that caught my eye, but wanted to get your esteemed opinions:

Jet 10” Table Saw w/presision fence – $475

JWTS-10CW2-LFR

Looks in nice condition from the photos, but the fence looks like it’d need to be replaced. For a start. Thoughts on what this is worth? Only thread I could find on here was three years ago, where someone mentioned they were looking at one for around this, and someone mentioned they sold theirs for $350?

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/tls/3610002909.html

-- Gaz. Irishman who lives in the San Francisco area, and tends to ruin more wood than he should.


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Loren

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#1 posted 02-12-2013 07:18 AM

No. Not in the bay area.

Check the auctions at machinerymax.com – lots of
stuff in N. Cal.

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#2 posted 02-12-2013 10:23 AM

$475 is too much for that saw IMO. On the plus side, it’s a nice full size cast iron contractor saw with solid cast wings, mobile base, and the blade guard. On the negative side, fence isn’t great, no riving knife, outboard motor, no warranty. $475 puts you firmly in range of a brand new full size cast iron hybrid style contractor saw with a riving knife, warranty, and mobile base, but it’ll have steel wings. The saw was around $700 new. $350-$400 would be about as high as I would go.

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ubermick

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#3 posted 02-12-2013 06:52 PM

Yeah, was thinking $350 for the saw would be reasonable for something that’s going to need additions, has no warranty, and has a few years on it. But assuming it’d be a good first table saw? (Well, second, but the !#$# Craftsman I have doesn’t count!)

-- Gaz. Irishman who lives in the San Francisco area, and tends to ruin more wood than he should.

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#4 posted 02-12-2013 07:06 PM

The saw looks to be in good condition and not abused, the price is pretty high for a used contractor saw, offer $300 and see if that goes anywhere, otherwise pass.

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#5 posted 02-12-2013 07:36 PM

I have to agree although it looks quite unspoiled it is a jet I don’t rate jet much to be honest and I think you could do slightly better say $300ish.Alistair
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ubermick

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#6 posted 02-12-2013 08:07 PM

Cheers all. Will contact the person selling it, and see what they say.

In another posting, I spotted this one when looking for a used R4511. Can’t tell which model it is, but certainly looks a bit older?

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/tls/3604040673.html

-- Gaz. Irishman who lives in the San Francisco area, and tends to ruin more wood than he should.

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#7 posted 02-12-2013 08:16 PM

Hard to tell which one that is, but there is a good chance you can run into arbor issues if you want to use a dado. The R4512’s are about $500 new, so I do not see that much of a savings going with the used and potential issues.

Given the two choices, and assuming both are unwilling to negotiate on their price, and if you had to have one today, I would go with the jet. But in my opinion they are both overpriced.

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#8 posted 02-12-2013 10:00 PM

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/tls/3604040673.html

This one looks like a TS2424 to me. It succeeded the TS2412, and preceded the TS3612. Made in the US by Emerson…the arbor issue pertained to the early TS3650’s made by TTI/Ryobi, and a few of the Cman contractor saws made by them as well. $400 is steep IMO, but it’s got potential….good fence, grated cast wings, mobile base. $275-$325 would be a fair price IMO, but every market is a little different, so maybe this is a good deal where you are.

This one essentially has the same guts as the TS2424 above. If you were to put a nice Delta T2 fence on it for ~ $165, it’d be a pretty darn nice saw. You can sell the stock fence for ~ $35 to offset costs a little.

Here’s another Emerson made Cman saw ....needs a little TLC, and I’d still do the T2 fence upgrade, but this fence would resell for a little more…maybe $50-$60, and it wouldn’t be quite as urgent to replace.

This one's in nice shape, has an upgraded fence and is $220…..it’s got steel wings, but otherwise looks good to me. Model #315.228390 made by TTI/Ryobi.

This older Delta could be a good saw too….asking $300, see what they’d take.

All of them need good alignment and a good blade to perform well.

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#9 posted 02-12-2013 10:26 PM

”This one essentially has the same guts as the TS2424 above. If you were to put a nice Delta T2 fence on it for ~ $165, it’d be a pretty darn nice saw. You can sell the stock fence for ~ $35 to offset costs a little.”

Offer $175 on this one and it is the best deal of them all. The fence is “usable” but an upgrade to the T2 or even a Vega would make this a very enjoyable saw.

The delta is a right tilt and overpriced.

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#10 posted 02-13-2013 12:35 AM

Scott!! Great googaly moogaly, I didn’t expect you to trawl through my local Craigslist to find me a saw. Thanks a million for taking the time and effort to do that. Wow. If you’re ever in my neck of the woods, I owe you a pint, sir.

Of the ones mentioned, the one I would (personally) lean towards would be the 315.228390 for $220. Purely because of the condition, and I have never even attempted to work on refurbing a saw – I’m still at a point where I foolishly expect things to work out of the box. But with Samurai’s recommendation for the other Craftsman with the router extension, maybe I need to take my hairy arse outside of my comfort zone…

-- Gaz. Irishman who lives in the San Francisco area, and tends to ruin more wood than he should.

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ubermick

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#11 posted 02-13-2013 06:45 PM

Sonnathabitch…

The TTi/Ryobi is gone, as is the better condition Emerson made Cman. The one that needs TLC is way south of here, a good 4 hour round trip.

Did find this Delta here? Don’t think it’s a $400 saw (then again, maybe it is?) but would be worth $300 or so?

-- Gaz. Irishman who lives in the San Francisco area, and tends to ruin more wood than he should.

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#12 posted 02-13-2013 08:49 PM

Did find this Delta here? Don’t think it’s a $400 saw (then again, maybe it is?) but would be worth $300 or so?

I’d think $300 would be a decent deal. You may still want a fence upgrade, but it’s better than the stock fence on the old Emerson saws.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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ubermick

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#13 posted 02-14-2013 01:32 AM

I’d think $300 would be a decent deal. You may still want a fence upgrade, but it’s better than the stock fence on the old Emerson saws.

He’s absolutely dead set on wanting $400 for it, and says if it doesn’t sell he’d rather keep it, so good luck to him. The search continues! What’s really cheesing me off is the fact that I see R4512s for sale all over the place for about $300… just not here.

-- Gaz. Irishman who lives in the San Francisco area, and tends to ruin more wood than he should.

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#14 posted 02-14-2013 03:52 AM

Delta made damn good contractor saws, if it came with a better fence it would be worth $400 but with the crappy old fence and stamped wings I’d go maybe $250-300 max. Before buying a Rigid just make sure you research the model carefully as some of them had a lot of issues. I would go talk to the guy with the Jet and see what he’d really take for it.

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ubermick

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#15 posted 02-14-2013 04:26 AM

Rick, the response I got from the Jet owner was from a woman who didn’t really have any info other than it was about 10 years old. I sort of got the impression that it was her husband’s saw, and she was selling it off. Sent her a reply offering $350, but never heard back. Everyone else seems to be absolutely completely and utterly unwilling to budge on their prices. Which is fair enough, it’s their gear, they can ask what they want, but it’s always a headscratcher to me when people basically say “So I bought this 10-15 years ago, but haven’t used it the past couple of years, so I figure it’s worth 85% of what I paid for it.”

It’s hard for me to justify spending any more than $350 on a used saw, when I can just toddle to Home Depot and get the new R4512 for not a ton more than that, brand new with riving blade et al, and a warranty.

-- Gaz. Irishman who lives in the San Francisco area, and tends to ruin more wood than he should.

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