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Forum topic by Doss posted 02-11-2013 09:35 PM 996 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Doss

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02-11-2013 09:35 PM

Topic tags/keywords: wood plane planing championship competition

My Stanley gets pretty close to this… kind of:

http://boingboing.net/2013/02/08/champions-of-wood-planing.html

-- "Well, at least we can still use it as firewood... maybe." - Doss


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#1 posted 02-12-2013 02:35 AM

I’m not sure which is more nuts, the thinness and consistency of the shavings, or how many people there are there watching. Here’s the direct Youtube link.

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#2 posted 02-12-2013 05:42 AM

nice, consistent shavings!

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#3 posted 02-12-2013 06:39 AM

the shavings are more consistant than machine planers…

-- The mark of a good carpenter is not how few mistakes he makes, but rather how well he fixes them.

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#4 posted 02-12-2013 05:48 PM

I can make a shaving so thin that you can’t see it or feel it. I win.

Actually, it was pretty cool seeing those shavings flutter around like tissue paper after they were cut.

-- More tools, fewer machines.

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#5 posted 02-12-2013 06:13 PM

pretty cool.

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#6 posted 02-13-2013 06:48 PM

Yeah, I thought I was getting pretty good shaving from my planes… then I saw this.

I wonder what angle they have their blade set at, the angle(s) of their grind, and just overall how those things are set up.

-- "Well, at least we can still use it as firewood... maybe." - Doss

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#7 posted 02-13-2013 10:53 PM

Just for reference, the shavings in the video are about 10 microns thick, which is about 0.01 millimeters or 0.0004 inches. A well tuned Western-style smoother can take 0.001-inch shavings, so the thickness of the shavings in these videos is slightly less than half that. Impressive, but it’s not like they’re taking off a single layer of molecules with those planes.

Also, as Chris Schwarz observed, shavings are not the goal in woodworking—they’re just trash that gets thrown away. It might be interesting to have a hand plane contest in which the goal is to produce the flattest, smoothest surface, not just the thinnest shavings. But that wouldn’t be as visually interesting.

-- More tools, fewer machines.

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#8 posted 02-14-2013 06:59 AM

Keep in mind that these people treasure craftsmanship like few other cultures. The art of making a sword is something truly worshiped there and sharpening hand tools is not far removed from that line of thought.

While it’s easy to disregard the “trash” they’re making, the art is in the process and method, not the resulting product.

0.01mm shavings are not very impressive? I guess it’s not if you put impressive at the level of splitting molecules. Why not just move that bar up and say impressive is splitting atoms? The point is that these are well-tuned planes (pretty impractical though for daily work) and show not only the level of refinement these people have mastered, but also that of their technique.

I think of it similar to the prototype cars and SEMA show cars. They are over the top demonstrations of what can be done. Impractical. Maybe even unusable. But the point is not what is there, but rather what can be done and what level a particular person or company can do it to. It’s a benchmark.

Don’t get caught up in the ways in which a [Western] woodworker would use these tools. Instead think of the effort that went into creating them and the peace it may give to the user when using them.

-- "Well, at least we can still use it as firewood... maybe." - Doss

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#9 posted 02-14-2013 03:15 PM

0.01-mm shavings are impressive, but I thought 10 microns was far thinner than it actually is. Those shavings are only half as thin, not 100 times as thin. (And the molecule thing was just hyperbole).

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#10 posted 02-14-2013 09:16 PM

Yeah, wasn’t angry at you. I just thought it was strange that what these things could do would be so easily discounted.

-- "Well, at least we can still use it as firewood... maybe." - Doss

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