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Forum topic by Don Broussard posted 532 days ago 1091 views 0 times favorited 26 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Don Broussard

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532 days ago

My wife and I went antiquing yesterday. I stumbled across a box with old tools, and I pulled out a few to look at a bit more closely. I had a complete No. 8C plane with broken tote, a smaller corrugated sole plane (not sure yet), an unknown flat-soled plane, a 12” all-metal combination square, and a 26” Disston skew back hand saw with 4 medallions. I asked the owner to give me a price on that grouping, and he said he’d take $30 for the group. I quickly agreed to the price and checked out.

After I clean them up, I might have more information regarding the tools’ identities. I will post an update on the tools.

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!


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JayT

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#1 posted 531 days ago

That’s beyond gloat-worthy and into “you suck” territory.

Your “flat-soled plane” looks like a Stanley #40 scrub plane, which is worth more than the $30 even in that condition. Everything else is a bonus.

Good find and good buy. Hope they all clean up well.

-- "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." Alexis de Tocqueville, 1835

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Loren

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#2 posted 531 days ago

Nice find. All usable tools with a little elbow grease.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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LukieB

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#3 posted 531 days ago

I agree with Jay, both in the “that’s a #40 scrub” and “you suck” : )

Definitely gloat worthy

-- Lucas, "Someday woodworks will be my real job, until then, there's this http://www.melbrownfarmsupply.com"

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Don W

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#4 posted 531 days ago

you’re way into “You Suck” territory

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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Don Broussard

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#5 posted 531 days ago

Thanks for the validation, fellas! I did clean that thinner body plane first because that’s the one I was most curious about, and yep, it is a Stanley #40 scrub plane. It is different from other planes I have dismantled and cleaned up:

The nuts holding the tote and knob were cylindrical instead of shaped nuts; the iron is beveled and cambered on both ends; the frog is stationary and is held in place with a horizontal pin and there is no lateral adjustment, much like a wooden body plane; the mouth is cambered; and the edge between the sole and the sides is rounded versus square.

BTW, there were no markings on the iron, just plain Jane. I just cleaned manually with a wire brush and then ran a buffing wheel over the parts where the buffing wheel could reach. After I put it back together, and without sharpening the iron, it took some pretty aggressive shavings of the face of a scrap pine I had laying around. It doesn’t look like it’ll take much tuning up at all. This one’s going to be used, I already can tell that. I disassembled it again after the last picture was taken, and now they are taking their Evaporust bath—I have to make sure they wash behind their ears!

Here are a few pics:

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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Don Broussard

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#6 posted 531 days ago

I disassembled the Stanley No. 4C, and the body has the two patent dates on it. Unfortunately, the side of the body is cracked. I hadn’t noticed this when I bought it, but I can always use this as a donor plane if needed.

Next up is the No. 8. I did notice that the screw for the tote on the No. 8 goes through the sole. I’m guessing that’s a “DIY aftermarket upgrade”. I’ll post additional progress pictures.

Thanks again for the encouragement.

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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Don W

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#7 posted 531 days ago

The #40 is a scrub. They are so much fun to use. You can bury yourself in shavings with one. I don’t think a crack will hurt performance.

I did notice the hole in the bottom of the #8. That drops the value substantially, so its only worth about 3 times what you paid for the whole lot.

I’ll say it again. You suck.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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Francisco Luna

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#8 posted 531 days ago

tha twas a bad, bad deal…..
send to me all those tools and I’m gonna give you $60 bucks plus shipping…...;)

-- Nature is my manifestation of God. I go to nature every day for inspiration in the day's work. I follow in building the principles which nature has used in its domain" Frank Lloyd Wright

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Don Broussard

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#9 posted 531 days ago

@Don W—The #40 scrub plane is intact. It’s the #4C that’s cracked.

I disassembled the 8C and it’s pretty standard, except for the “DIY aftermarket upgrade”. I didn’t see any markings on the iron and the only marking on the body is “No. 8”.

I also removed the tote from the skew back hand saw. There were 4 medallions: 3 Disston Warranted Superior and 1 Disston USA. I’ll probably clean it tomorrow and take the other tool parts out of the Evaporust bath and do some more cleaning, reassembly and tuning.

Happy shavings to y’all!

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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madts

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#10 posted 531 days ago

NO.

-- Thor and Odin are still the greatest of Gods.

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CharlieM1958

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#11 posted 531 days ago

Let’s just say if you’re Catholic, you need to go to confession ASAP.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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Don Broussard

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#12 posted 531 days ago

@Charlie—I left the market with a good conscience! I gave the owner what he was asking. I admit that I had set my own limit for my grouping at a higher price though. BTW, confession is familiar to me.

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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Don W

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#13 posted 531 days ago

I figured out I had mos read after I posted. That’s good because a #4 or 4c base will be a lot easier and cheaper to find.

the #8 might not be a Stanley. It could be a knock off of some kind, but its still a great #8 user and well worth its cost.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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BRAVOGOLFTANGO

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#14 posted 531 days ago

What a nice find, holy cow the #40 looks like something Noah used on the Ark!

So I’m pretty new with handplanes 101 and will probably get laughed at, but can someone tell me the basics of ridged handplanes vs smooth and what the ridged planes are primarily used for?

I’m assuming the ridged bottoms are for joiner planes but honestly don’t know.

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Don W

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#15 posted 531 days ago

I’ll assume you’re talking about the corrugated models. There is 2 schools of thought. The first thought is it was just a marketing ploy that caught on. The second is it reduces friction thus making it easier to plane.

Stanley made a “C” model in all of their bench planes so there is a #2 and #2c all the way to #8 and #8c. That includes fractional.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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