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Forum topic by nwbusa posted 02-09-2013 12:19 AM 2187 views 0 times favorited 69 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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nwbusa

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02-09-2013 12:19 AM

This is not another “which TS should I buy” thread, but rather just some thoughts and observations running through my head as I get ready to buy my first cabinet saw.

I had a chance to play around with a few cabinet saws today, as part of my pre-purchasing research. I looked at the Delta Unisaw, a General 350, and a Laguna LTS-260. These are the saws that are available in my neck of the woods.

The Unisaw was really nice but it’s a bit more than I want to spend. The General is also a nice saw, Canadian made, but it’s also stretching my budget and to be honest, I’m not sure how I feel about buying a saw that is no longer going to be manufactured.

So that left me with the Laguna. I’ve read all of the horror stories about their customer service, and I told the sales guy at the store that I was concerned about it. He acknowledged that there have been some problems in the past, but he claims they have improved in that area in recent years. He also made the point that if I have a problem with the saw, I won’t be dealing with Laguna, he will be. The sales guy was actually very helpful, pointing out the various features of the saws, and even encouraging me to wait until next month to buy as they have a sale coming up then.

The Laguna saw itself is an exact clone of the Grizzly G0691 with a different paint scheme. I’m on the fence (no pun intended) as to whether I want a 52” rip capacity. Laguna doesn’t offer a 30” version of their saw, so if I decide to go that route I’d have to look at the G0690 (or cut down the rails on the Laguna).

I’m going to make a trip down to the Grizzly showroom this weekend, just to check out their machines in person. I was initially considering a G1023RLW, but I don’t think I can live with a 26” rip capacity.

Too many freaking saws to choose from… what a problem to have, eh? :)

-- John, BC, Canada


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kdc68

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#1 posted 02-09-2013 12:34 AM

nwbusa- Been there done that…frustrating I know

Knottscott is the table saw guru on this site. He has great info on saws

Well if you end up going for a Grizzly. They are having tent sales at all they locations. Never been to one but from what I’ve heard you can get good deals on “as is” and “scratch and dent”

Via Grizzly Facebook Page it says:
Muncy PA – May 18th and Sept 21st
Springfield MO – June 8th
Bellingham WA – June 22nd

-- Measure "at least" twice and cut once

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Clint Searl

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#2 posted 02-09-2013 12:38 AM

If it’s for your self esteem, buy the most expensive one you can afford. If it’s to make stuff, a Ridgid portable or contractors saw will do 98.7% of what needs doing.

-- Clint Searl....Ya can no more do what ya don't know how than ya can git back from where ya ain't been

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sixstring

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#3 posted 02-09-2013 12:41 AM

Youre probably going to want that extra rip capacity. I’ve got 52” on my saw and while I only use the extra 2’ about 20% of the time, having that ability is priceless… Especially since my mitresaw sucks so bad. If you work with sheetgoods… then it’s a no-brainer. And if you have the room and the budget to work with… enough said.

Happy Hunting and show us some pics of the Laguna once you it wired up!

-- JC Garcia, Concord, CA : "It's easier to ask forgiveness than permission..."

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#4 posted 02-09-2013 01:30 AM

How about Hammer with a sliding table and built in dust collection.

This is the smallest model at a cost of $2990! They also have much larger ones available!

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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#5 posted 02-09-2013 01:41 AM

I was “the woodworking shows” today and hammer was displaying a saw for $1995. I didn’t really look at it too closely.

-- Jesse, Saint Louis, Missouri

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#6 posted 02-09-2013 01:46 AM

”If it’s for your self esteem, buy the most expensive one you can afford. If it’s to make stuff, a Ridgid portable or contractors saw will do 98.7% of what needs doing.”

So I presume you’re of the opinion anyone buying a higher quality or caliber saw other than a low end basic POS is simply “compensating”?

-- Artisan Woodworks of Texas.... www.awwtx.com

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#7 posted 02-09-2013 01:55 AM

”I was initially considering a G1023RLW, but I don’t think I can live with a 26” rip capacity.”

Can you deal with 36” rip? Gain 10 inches rip capacity without drilling

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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danr

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#8 posted 02-09-2013 02:01 AM

Delta UNISaw.
You will not regret it.
Probably be the last TS you will every buy so get what you really want.

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kdc68

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#9 posted 02-09-2013 02:02 AM

SamuariSaw.... Lol.. agree to your response to this ” If it’s for your self esteem, buy the most expensive one you can afford. If it’s to make stuff, a Ridgid portable or contractors saw will do 98.7% of what needs doing.”

That can be interpreted as a bit insulting. Almost like that one LJ member who rips everyone a new one for not buying a Delta. Won’t mention names of course. Definitely NOT refering to you danr ....lol

Nwbusa – buy the best you can afford and one that accomodates your shop and your needs… I think that would be a better less offensive answer

-- Measure "at least" twice and cut once

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#10 posted 02-09-2013 02:33 AM

We all “compensate” to some degree in that we buy what works best for our specific situation. I just love the guys that ridicule folks for buying a cabinet saw, but then laugh at people buying a low end hand plane rather than a Lie-Nielson.

Most cabinet saws will out-perform most contractor saws. It is a fact of life, get over it. However, a skilled craftsman will take whatever tools are at his disposal are create something of value. They are tools, simply that.

-- Artisan Woodworks of Texas.... www.awwtx.com

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nwbusa

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#11 posted 02-09-2013 02:42 AM

Oh, I’m not offended by ol’ Clint. He just has a certain way about him lol…

I’m starting to come over to the 52” school of thought. I just need to make sure I don’t limit my floor space for future machine additions.

knotscott, thanks for the link and that’s a good point. Yes, I think I could live with 36”. Even 30” would probably be okay, but I’m giving some heavy thought to the larger rip capacity saws.

-- John, BC, Canada

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#12 posted 02-09-2013 03:41 AM

Doing the same thing to the G0690 will net ~40” rip.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#13 posted 02-09-2013 04:15 AM

Go with Grizzly. When Laguna pulls the chain of the guy you talked to, it’s not much different than pulling your chain directly. And everyone says Grizzly CS is very good. It’s a short drive for you down to Bellingham and you can save the freight . . .

-- Dwight - "Free legal advice available - contact Dewey, Cheetam & Howe""

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nwbusa

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#14 posted 02-09-2013 04:38 AM

Yeah, but what sucks is that if I pick up a Grizzly saw down there, I have to pay sales tax twice—9% in WA and 12% in BC. That’s a tough pill to swallow.

-- John, BC, Canada

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History

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#15 posted 02-09-2013 04:50 AM

Clint is absolutely correct. The problem with some of you Cabinet saw owners and or salesmen is the ridiculous nit picking of Contractor’s saws. I gets really old.

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