LumberJocks

which is the better saw Powermatic 63 or Delta 34-444

  • Advertise with us

« back to Power Tools, Hardware and Accessories forum

Forum topic by liketosail posted 565 days ago 1985 views 0 times favorited 27 replies Add to Favorites Watch
View liketosail's profile

liketosail

31 posts in 568 days


565 days ago

I have both, but have not had the time to use them yet.
I know the Delta was made in USA and the motor is easily removed and installed back on and they both have the same inserts ….which is the best?


27 replies so far

View History's profile

History

395 posts in 608 days


#1 posted 565 days ago

If I remember correctly the Powermatic 63 has smaller trunion rods, and the cast wings are an open web design. The Powermatic was probably built in the USA also so it’s probably a good saw. I have had a Delta 34-444 since 1995 when I bought it new, it’s been a very good saw.

View Rick M.'s profile

Rick M.

3873 posts in 1007 days


#2 posted 565 days ago

I have a Delta 36-445 which is similar, been using it for over a decade with zero problems. Which fence is on the Delta? If it has the crappy skinny fence then keep the Powermatic. If it has the Unifence or Bies then keep the Delta.

-- |Statistics show that 100% of people bitten by a snake were close to it.|

View knotscott's profile

knotscott

5418 posts in 2003 days


#3 posted 565 days ago

Very similar designs. Fence, alignment, and blade choice will make far more difference than brand.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

View SamuraiSaw's profile

SamuraiSaw

447 posts in 591 days


#4 posted 565 days ago

Personally I’d stay with the Powermatic. The cast iron wings are better than the stamped steel on the delta. But as Scott pointed out, proper setup will be the key with either one.

-- Artisan Woodworks of Texas.... www.awwtx.com

View History's profile

History

395 posts in 608 days


#5 posted 564 days ago

Solid cast iron wings can be found for the Delta Contractor’s saw, if I’m not mistakin, the Unisaw solid cast wings fit the Contractor’s saw as well.

View SamuraiSaw's profile

SamuraiSaw

447 posts in 591 days


#6 posted 564 days ago

Why spend the money when the Powermatic already has cast iron wings?

-- Artisan Woodworks of Texas.... www.awwtx.com

View History's profile

History

395 posts in 608 days


#7 posted 564 days ago

Because the open web cast wings that the Powermatic has are less desirable then solid cast wings.

View b2rtch's profile

b2rtch

4310 posts in 1675 days


#8 posted 564 days ago

‘Because the open web cast wings that the Powermatic has are less desirable then solid cast wings.”
Why?

-- Bert

View Loren's profile (online now)

Loren

7400 posts in 2275 days


#9 posted 564 days ago

I’d say the Powermatic, but with reservations for the
contractor saw model and age of the tool.

Webbed wings suck.

The reason is it’s too easy to mash a finger in the webbing
when, for example, putting a crosscut sled on the table.

You can tell yourself “well, I just won’t make that mistake”...

...but I bet you will. More than once.

... and it will hurt.

Powermatic has cruised on a reputation earned on very
good quality up into the 1980s. I don’t know if the
Asian-made Powermatic models of today are made to
the same standards. From what I’ve heard, they
don’t measure up.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

View SamuraiSaw's profile

SamuraiSaw

447 posts in 591 days


#10 posted 564 days ago

Loren,

Gotta disagree. I used Craftsman saws with webbed extensions for more years than I care to admit. It only took once or twice getting nipped to get into the habit of watching where I placed my fingers. Kinda like shooting a semi-automatic handgun. You won’t put your thumb in the wrong place more than a couple of times. I still prefer cast iron in any configuration over stamped steel. In this case, I certainly don’t see the need to go to that extra expense. The return on investment isn’t there.

I recently spent a lot of time evaluating cabinet saws, and chose the Powermatic. I would say the fit and finish is as good as it has ever been. I had narrowed it down to Powermatic, Delta, and Saw Stop. Delta is not the same company it used to be either, and I wasn’t willing to take a chance on them. The Saw Stop was just too expensive. I don’t regret my choice, and that saw runs 15 to 20 hours a week.

-- Artisan Woodworks of Texas.... www.awwtx.com

View oldnovice's profile

oldnovice

3691 posts in 1995 days


#11 posted 564 days ago

I have used both web and solid plus the cast aluminum ones …the aluminum ones I have (3) are for sale $15.00 each as they are just taking up shop space!

I prefer the solid because things don’t fall “through” like on the web ones and, they match my Benchdog solid RT extension.

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

View Rick M.'s profile

Rick M.

3873 posts in 1007 days


#12 posted 564 days ago

I’ve never used webbed extensions and never want to. I’d rather make melamine extensions.

-- |Statistics show that 100% of people bitten by a snake were close to it.|

View History's profile

History

395 posts in 608 days


#13 posted 564 days ago

Webed wings also limit your choices for a good fence

View SamuraiSaw's profile

SamuraiSaw

447 posts in 591 days


#14 posted 564 days ago

”Webed wings also limit your choices for a good fence”

Really?

Sorry Charlie (sounds like an old tuna commercial, huh?), but to use your own words you don’t have a clue. The Delta T2 and every version of the Vega fences (which are highly accurate and dependable fences) are recommended for and used on table saws with webbed extensions.

Perhaps these exceptional fences don’t meet your standards, but a significant number of hobbyists and professionals would disagree.

-- Artisan Woodworks of Texas.... www.awwtx.com

View oldnovice's profile

oldnovice

3691 posts in 1995 days


#15 posted 564 days ago

My fence worked fine with the web extensions! I just didn’t like the web openings as I could not get used to things falling through.

During the move to CA, I lost the rip fence alignment brackets for the wings so now I am limited in rip capability since the parts for my TS are no longer available!

The depth of my table is 27” and I have been able to get nearly any accessory but no parts for the original Craftsman fence. I have been thinking about buying a whole new fence …. when I get some shekels.

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

showing 1 through 15 of 27 replies

Have your say...

You must be signed in to reply.

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

HomeRefurbers.com

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

GardenTenders.com :: gardening showcase