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empty5853

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544 days ago

Hello,
I’m kind of new to posting here but have enjoyed reading all the great information (especially the reviews). I’ve just finished my workshop and need some advice on dust collection.

I already have a JDS Air-Tech HP High Efficiency Air Filtration Unit for the air but need actually dust collection at the machines. I have the typical woodworking equipment i.e. TS, Jointer, Planer, RAS, etc. My plan is not to pipe to each machine. I’m a amateur woodworker and retired so if it takes longer and is a little inconvenient to switch the hose to each machine, no big deal. I’ve read so much information on dust collectors my brain is numb. I’d like to get a cyclone system but they’re out of my price range. My thoughts are a single stage unit with a cyclone /trashcan setup. As with all of us. I need to balance cost vs. best unit for my application vs. quality of the unit vs. value. Also, I’m not a “tool snob” (No disrespect intended). I own or have owned JET, DELTA, GRIZZLEY, DEWALT, CRAFTSMAN and many others. I’ve had pretty good luck with all of them. Also. It can use 110v or 220v. I have both available.

Here are some of my thoughts/likes on what I had in mind.

PENN STATE 2 HP DC2000B Dust Collector with 1 Micron Bags.
• Good reviews
• Nice price
• 1 micron bag is standard
• Would still need to get a cyclone/trashcan setup

HF 2 HP Industrial 5 Micron Dust Collector• Some good reviews
• Great price
• 5 micron bag is standard
• Would still need to get a cyclone/trashcan setup

Grizzly G1029Z2P 2 HP Dust Collector with Aluminum Impeller • Some good reviews
• Upper range of my price point
•2.5 micron bag is standard
• Would still need to get a cyclone/trashcan setup

DELTA 50-760 1.5HP 1,200 CFM Vertical Bag Dust Collector
• good reviews
• Upper range of my price point
• 1 micron bag is standard
• Would still need to get a cyclone/trashcan setup

OPTION: a Shop Vacuum with a Dust Right Separator ( my concern is would it handle the bigger chips from the planer and jointer)

I’m sure there are many more but you get the idea. I don’t mind spend a little more if it’s worth it because of quality such as a Delta or JET unit. I’m leaning towards the Penn State one though. I like the 1 micron bag it comes with. I don’t really know if there’s a big difference between a 1 micron and a 2.5 micron bag but figured it made sense to start with the smallest bag I can get.

I’d appreciate any advise, comments or suggestions. I know most of you have probably been down this road already so you have a lot of good experience.

Thanks for your time.

Vr
Mark T.


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Cole Tallerman

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#1 posted 544 days ago

I would strongly suggest the HF collector for $150 and then add a Wynn filter for $110 and then put a wok in your dust collector. Then, add the dust right system from rockler for around $40 and you have your entire setup with a 1 micron canister filter for $300.

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CL810

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#2 posted 544 days ago

I went the HF route and have been happy. The only thing I would do differently is get a full sized drum; it’s amazing how fast it fills up when run the planer.

-- "It's amazing how much can go wrong when you think you know what you're doing."

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DIYaholic

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#3 posted 544 days ago

Yep, Harbor freight 2HP DC, Wynn Environmental Canister filter and a pre-sperator (Dust Deputy or Thein Top Hat), is the way to go, IMHO.

I say a pre-seperator for two reasons (not to insult Cole);
1) Saves your impeller from undue wear and tear, from large pieces of debris being suck into the system.
2) Saves large debris (tape measurers & what not) from the impellers after being sucked into the system.

You get kudos, for already having an ambient air filter!!!
BTW: What is the micron rating for it?
I also highly recommend the Wynn NANO filter. That may be a selfish desire to protect my lungs though!!! Lol.

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procratination a bad thing?

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History

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#4 posted 543 days ago

The Delta 50-760 without a doubt.

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SamuraiSaw

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#5 posted 543 days ago

+1 on DIY’s advice. It’s the best you’ve gotten so far!

-- Artisan Woodworks of Texas.... www.awwtx.com

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MattinCincy

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#6 posted 543 days ago

Here’s my Delta 50-760 with a few modifications. After building a Thein separator I no longer needed the collection bag below my Wynn filter (virtually EVERYTHING gets caught by the Thein)so I replaced it with an easily removable 1/4” thick mdf cover to save space and make it easy to access the inside of the filter for the occasional cleaning. I hung the entire unit from the floor joists in my basement to save floor space, and devised a way to suspend the separator using a couple of ropes and hooks when I need to empty the trash can. This setup works great for me.

-- Wag more, bark less.

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Tennwood

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#7 posted 543 days ago

I have used the Penn State with the 1 micron canister for about 4 years and have been satisfied with it. I have the garbage can with a cyclone lid from Woodcraft that gets most of the chips, larger size dust and the big stuff before it gets to the DC, as long as I remember to empty it before it gets above half full. Otherwise it starts sucking up the chips from the can. My only issues with it are:
The bags are a pain to replace with the way they have the vertical supports bolted in just above where the bag straps on. The impeller or motor is starting to squeak a little now, but that may be because a few to many chunks have gotten sucked through it. The filter does not clean real well with the internal paddles and as the efficiency goes down I have to take it outside and knock all the dust out (I usually do this when I have to empty the bag).
If I were to replace it with a similar style and wanted to spend the money, I would look at the Jet Vortex. From what I seen and read, it keeps the filter a lot cleaner.
Good luck.

-- Jim, SE Tennessee, "Don't spare the kindling Dear, we have plenty"

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SamuraiSaw

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#8 posted 543 days ago

Matt,

How do you know the can is full and needs to be emptied? I have a Thein seperator, but left the clear plastic bag in place. If the can fills up while I’m working I will see stuff swirling in the bag and it prompts me to empty the can. What keeps debris from the pleated filter if the can fills up?

-- Artisan Woodworks of Texas.... www.awwtx.com

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JesseTutt

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#9 posted 543 days ago

another +1 on DIY’s advice. It’s the best you’ve gotten so far!

-- Jesse, Saint Louis, Missouri

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History

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#10 posted 543 days ago

Not only is it poor advice, it is a poor investment. People that buy a Harbor Freight 2 HP DC are buying them for the sole reason that it’s the cheapest.

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Tomthumb

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#11 posted 543 days ago

I would check penn state reviews I have seen are good.

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DIYaholic

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#12 posted 543 days ago

Saw Sucker,
You are entitled to have and freely express YOUR OPINION!!!
There ARE cheaper/less expensive DCs than the HF, so please explain, to us uninformed, Why is the HF 2HP DC bad advice?

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procratination a bad thing?

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History

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#13 posted 543 days ago

Really DIY ? There are cheaper new 2 hp DC’s out there ? Name a few. I shouldn’t have to explain to anyone why anything HF is a bad investment. It’s rediculous.

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MattinCincy

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#14 posted 543 days ago

Sam,

I keep a close eye on my trash can, and try to never let it get more than 2/3 full – I noticed a drop in performance if it gets too full. I plan to put a clear viewing window in my can some day, but haven’t gotten around to it yet.

-- Wag more, bark less.

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doyoulikegumwood

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#15 posted 543 days ago

will i see some ruffled feather but I’m going to agree with DIY 1st lets call these things what they are chip collectors .
2nd with the afore mentioned modes I can run my whole shop with my fracken sucker from HF at around 1400CFM @around a 300 doller investment.

3rd thing. My 350 doller 1.5 horse delta has a hard time keeping up with one machine at a time if a wheel it around from machine to machine and I most certainly am not going cut up and screw up a 350 doller piece of machinery.

Nuff siad

-- I buy tools so i can make more money,so ican buy more tools so I can work more, to make more money, so I can buy more tool, so I can work more

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