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Forum topic by BroncoBrian posted 02-03-2013 02:43 AM 786 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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BroncoBrian

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02-03-2013 02:43 AM

Topic tags/keywords: bandsaw jet powermatic

Howdy all.

Here is what I have:

SS PCS175
DW 735X Planer
DW Compound Miter
Jet 1100 Vortex DC
Many hand tools including some Wood River hand planes

I think next up will be a Band Saw, Drum Sander and Jointer.

I can hold off on the last two for a little while so the Band saw is in question. I looked at the PM 14” selling for $1200 which I am confident would be ok, but the 16” Jet JWBS-16B looks like so much more machine with better build for a couple hundred more. Not sure how much the fence and miter and guides are that come with the 18”. Does anyone suggest getting the 18” instead and think it will be used enough to drop that money on it or is there something else in the $1k to $1500 range I should consider?

Laguna accessories looks great but I have seen mixed reviews. I do expect to have a stock of REAL reclaimed lumber to resaw and run through in 2-3 months.

Wow, thanks to KnotScott and A1Jim’s awesome advise this Dewalt portable tables saw purchase I intended to make sure has gotten out of control! I love it.

-- Stop thinking, let things happen... and be the ball.


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matthewcressey

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#1 posted 02-03-2013 02:51 AM

Before you buy a new tool thing Do I really need this? Is it impossible to go on without it at the moment? What will I use it for/Or will I really use it? Then think about buying it. by the way laguna customer servise is notoriusly bad.

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#2 posted 02-03-2013 03:02 AM

Take a look at the grizzly G053x2. They are in the same price range. i have the G053×2bf and love it, with a good blade it does everything I ask. As far as justifying the cost, I have taken on 2 projects for other companies the combined profit has paid for the saw. I routinely ask it to resaw 6 to 10” high boards without a problem and the timber wolf blade provides a smooth cut.

-- Jesse, Saint Louis, Missouri

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BBrown626

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#3 posted 02-03-2013 03:08 AM

I have been looking for a little while. If the RIKON 14” 10-325 goes on sale, I am jumping on it.
I stopped by a store today to check out the Laguna and PM 14” machines. I am 6’3”. The Laguna’s table is very low. The PM table is at a great height. The PM will resaw no more than about 6” without modification. The Laguna and RIKON have a lot of resaw capacity without modification.
I don’t plan on doing a lot of resawing, but most of my lumber is over 6” wide, so I’d like to be able to resaw over 6”.
For less cash you can snatch up a 17” Grizzly, if a bigger saw is needed.
Grizzly includes a nice resaw fence with a few of their machines.
I think the choice comes down to what you expect to do with it.

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Jerry

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#4 posted 02-03-2013 03:34 AM

Go for an 18” or larger bandsaw. We use a 20” pm. More capacity is nice to have. The larger band saw will do everything the smaller one will do plus will handle the bigger stuff. We recently resawed about 500 bf of mesquite. A guy sells me a full 16’ trailer load of straight clean mesquite logs for 100.00 and we cut 4’ long logs all day on our band saw. That capability is nice to have, especially when needed.

Street value for the mesquite we milled is 2,500.00.

Auctions are a great place for larger band saws from ├žabinet shops closing down. Bought our band saw for 75.00. It is a 1981 pm. It was 3 phase so I through a brand new single phase motor in it and a few blades, for less then 600 we have a great handsaw.

My next dream machine is to buy a smaller portable sawmill trailer mounted, will set us back about 6000 bones :-)

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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BroncoBrian

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#5 posted 02-03-2013 04:10 AM

thanks Jerry, i am tempted to find an 18”. I know the 16” would likely do ok. I think the resaw capacity is just over 12” which is pretty fair.

Matthew- it is a hobby. thanks for the Laguna cs info. That seems to be a known issue. I have a very good friend with a barn he wants taken down so I will want to use a lot of the lumber from it (early 1800’s). We wil know in 3 weeks what is in there. So far looks like a lot of great material so I would have to have a few grand of lumber sitting on the floor with no easy way to process it. Makes up the $500 difference real quick.

Anyone have the better Jet line? I am 6’6” so the low tables are a no go for me I think.

The PM1500 is too pricey for my taste but the video on the website looks great.

What Grizzly BS are close to that quality? Jesse – The G0513X2B seems to address the complaints I have seen from Grizzly reviews. Sealed bearings and large table etc. Fence looks good. Heave beast though. Do the wheel work ok for shifting it around?

BBrown, mixed reviews on the Rikon, some love it with 5 starts, other mixed with 3. Seems even… Any thoughts?

-- Stop thinking, let things happen... and be the ball.

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BroncoBrian

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#6 posted 02-03-2013 04:43 AM

further i Grizzly always make this confusing. There are 5/6 different G0513 versions. I understand F is for footbrake. any other thought?

-- Stop thinking, let things happen... and be the ball.

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Tedstor

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#7 posted 02-03-2013 12:14 PM

I personally wouldn’t buy a $1200 14” bandsaw. At that price point, I’d definitely look at the larger Grizzly machines. Heck, I think a 17” grizzly can be had for under $1000.

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Jerry

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#8 posted 02-03-2013 02:02 PM

I recall the 17” grizzly was a good price and value.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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BroncoBrian

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#9 posted 02-03-2013 04:08 PM

I read a bunch of the grizzly reviews and I think they are about 50% 5 star, 25% 4 star, and 25% have had to fix a new purchase for 2-14 days before it is ok. Really do not want to shell out cash for a new DIY project! Am I wrong?

I have little patience for NIB being anything but 100% perfect on day 1…..

-- Stop thinking, let things happen... and be the ball.

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Jerry

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#10 posted 02-03-2013 04:29 PM

I could understand not wanting to buy a new machine that is a fixer upper. But we had a 2 hp grizzly DC before upgrading to 5hp cyclone delta, we used that machine a tremendous amount without issue. It was mfg in 1980 and was strong as ever. We have 2 grizzly 3 hp shapers and a 3 hp grizzly cabinet saw. Never had an issue. Our grizzly TS was mfg in 1990s, one of our shapers is an older 90s model but motor was rebuilt around 2006, our other shaper we bought new in 2008, never any issues. Oh yeah, we also have a grizzly power feeder, works better than our powermatic power feeder, mainly because the grizzly feeder is only a few years old, the pm feeder is about 30 years old.

Still yet, if you feel you have a 25% chance of getting a bad machine when buying new, that is very bad odds when buying new and I would not take those odds. Our PM bandsaw is extremely beefy at 1000 lbs, in fact we basically made a sled and slid it off our truck, it sort of worked except for the crash at the end :). That said, our BS works great even after practically throwing it out of the back of the truck. Not so sure the Grizzly is built that beefy???? But I bet the Grizzly is everything you would want or need.

I would think your planer will be far more useful when using reclaimed barn wood.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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Sandra

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#11 posted 02-03-2013 05:17 PM

Just set up my Rikon 14” 10-325 this week.

The Rikon has a 13” resaw capacity. I’ve just started putting it through its paces and have nothing bad to say about it yet. Keeping in mind however that this is my first bandsaw ever.

I’m in Canada, so shipping is the big price booster. I found it on sale at Canadian Woodworker for 799.00.

-- No, I don't want to buy the pink hammer.

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