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liketosail

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02-02-2013 09:20 AM

I just got a Delta saw for 50 dollars on cl with mobile base. And wanted to know more about it.


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Fred Hargis

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#1 posted 02-02-2013 01:14 PM

You stole that saw! I had one for about 11 years before I sold it to buy a Unisaw. I bought mine new around 1989, with a 30” Unifence it ran about $500. The factory motor one those were de-rated to 1.5HP (120V) to meet some UL requirements, they are really 2 HP motors. (the motor says 1.5/2HP, 120V/240V) I can tell you that the upgrade to a Unisaw did absolutely nothing for me in terms of capabilities. Yep, it doesn’t labor as much ripping thick hardwood, but in terms of accuracy and capability it has no advantage over the 34-444 (IMHO, of course). The saw itself is USA made and i wound up ottuing PALS on mine and a link belt. Both were well worth the cost. The biggest downside is the stamped wings, they seem to be crap….but they still did the job. Congrats!

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#2 posted 02-02-2013 01:17 PM

Super deal! At that price, it’s downright profitable….the motor is worth more than you paid, and all the other parts are worth something…. it’s a solid basic contractor saw. AFAIK, it was made in the USA. It should clean up pretty nicely with some elbow grease. Align it, and put a good blade on it. Down the road, you might consider selling the stock fence for $50-$75, and buying something like a Delta T2 for ~ $165 shipped. Please show us some “after” pics when you’re done.

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#3 posted 02-02-2013 01:48 PM

Once you clean it up, it will make for a good “tool gloat” post. $50 for a quality, US-made table saw is a steal. The stock fence might be fine, and if it is, stick with it. But as KS said, a Delta T2 would be a fantastic upgrade, and should be a direct bolt-on accessory.
For just over $200, you’d have a saw that would keep-up with any modern contractor saw. And it’d run circles around any new saw you could buy for $200.
Nice find!!

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liketosail

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#4 posted 02-02-2013 02:08 PM

The rails for the fence are bent bad and so a t2 fence is next in line …also today I am buying a craftsman eighty model table saw that was never run or completely put together for $50 dollars.
I will post a picture later .

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#5 posted 02-02-2013 02:59 PM

Two table saws? Are you planning to flip one of them?
“80 Model”? If you’re looking at a Craftsman table saw from the 80’s, its almost definitely a 113 series. I have one with a T2 fence. In case you weren’t aware, the whimpy stock fence on the 113 is a complete POS. Otherwise, the 113 is a very capable saw….with a proper fence upgrade.

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#6 posted 02-02-2013 03:14 PM

I’ve been a woodworker for about 30 years, I have a Delta 34-444 with a 30” Unifence and a fullsize mobile base, I bought the saw new in 1995 from ACME Electric ( Tool Crib of the North ) and I paid $900 for it as a 34-445X package deal ( I still have the receipt ) . Since then I’ve added a removeable outfeed table that was made for the saw and made by Delta, I added a paddle switch to it without butchering the factory wire ends, and wired it for 230V, I added a Fenner Drives PowerTwist belt to it, then I designed dust collection for it that works very well and is user friendly. It’s been a great saw and will more then likely be my last. Over the years I’ve built alot of stuff with the saw and it works as well as the day I bought it. It’s a very well built Contractor’s saw. Weather you got a great deal on your saw or not is hard for me to tell without looking it over better and turning it on. All I can see in the picture is that it needs a good cleaning up, and that takes time. I’ve flipped a few Delta Contractor’s saws, I like them so well that I kept a Rockwell 9” Contractor’s saw for my other shop, a used Unifence that I have may be going on that saw soon.

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#7 posted 02-02-2013 03:26 PM

If the Craftsman has the cast iron wings it will be a better saw. Like Ted said, the fence is junk. I put a Vega on mine and really loved it. Either way, you’ll have a saw, or saws, that will serve you well.

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#8 posted 02-02-2013 03:53 PM

If the Craftsman has the cast iron wings it will be a better saw. Thats simply not true. The open webed cast iron wings that were on a good majority of Craftsman Contractors saws were finger pinchers and not all that desirable. Plus A Delta saw will hold it’s resale value much better then a Craftsman.

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#9 posted 02-02-2013 03:59 PM

I’ve used both and the Craftsman is a better saw. It is left tilt, which is more accurate and safer.

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#10 posted 02-02-2013 04:02 PM

Resale value? I’m not sure thats a concern on a $50 saw. ;)
Keep in mind that this particular Delta has a bent fence rail and stamped wings.
Just sayin’

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#11 posted 02-02-2013 04:06 PM

I’ve used both and the Craftsman is a better saw. It is left tilt, which is more accurate and safer. How is a left tilt more accurate ?

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#12 posted 02-02-2013 04:12 PM

It’s not a big deal Ted, the fence would probably have to be replaced on both saws, and cast iron wings for the Delta can be found if you think that you have to have them. Mine has a stamped steel wing, I would of changed the one that the saw has, but one of the requirements on the Delta outfeed table for that saw is that the saw has stamped steel wings, you could say that it’s a tradeoff, but reality is that cast wings add weight for stability, well I added the weight to the rear of the saw by adding the outfeed table, and the extension table to the right is a 1/4” steel sheet.. The outfeed table is more important to me then a cast wing.

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#13 posted 02-02-2013 04:18 PM

”How is a left tilt more accurate ?”

I’d try to explain it to you, but you wouldn’t understand.

The webbed design is still in use today. If you got your fingers pinched perhaps you were not using the saw properly. I found the design quite desirable and wore out 2 Craftsman saws. The Delta lasted less than a year.

-- Artisan Woodworks of Texas.... www.awwtx.com

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#14 posted 02-02-2013 04:22 PM

It’s been my TS since 1982.

-- Clint Searl....Ya can no more do what ya don't know how than ya can git back from where ya ain't been

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#15 posted 02-02-2013 04:23 PM

No pictures Sam, it didn’t happen. I’d try to explain it to you, but you wouldn’t understand. Oh I’d love to hear the explanation Sam, try me.

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