LumberJocks

Another stupid person not using splitter

  • Advertise with us

« back to Safety in the Woodworking Shop forum

Forum topic by steffen707 posted 02-02-2013 02:28 AM 1666 views 1 time favorited 34 replies Add to Favorites Watch
View steffen707's profile

steffen707

98 posts in 1175 days


02-02-2013 02:28 AM

Well its been a while since i’ve logged in. Wish it was because I completed something fun, but I had a close call today. shot a 8” piece of malamine 15 feet into my drywall. Its the small hole to the right of the 2 electrical boxes on the back wall. Left a pretty mark on the board too. Pretty sure i’ve seen this same exact arc cut from another guy on this forum when he shot a piece of wood into his belly. I was wearing saftey goggles so i guess i’m not completely stupid.

I’m thinking about buying a shark guard splitter now.


-- If you think it will take a week and cost $100, it will take a month and cost $400.


34 replies so far

View AandCstyle's profile

AandCstyle

1719 posts in 1139 days


#1 posted 02-02-2013 02:44 AM

Glad you weren’t hurt. I love my SharkGuard, but the time from order to delivery was an eternity when I ordered mine.

-- Art

View steffen707's profile

steffen707

98 posts in 1175 days


#2 posted 02-02-2013 03:17 AM

I was looking at some other posts and learned about the gripper by microjig. Looks like a pretty nice safety tool. I need to put a splitter on as well.

Funny how I just read that a push stick can raise the front of the piece causing it to want to kick back, which is exactly what I did.

-- If you think it will take a week and cost $100, it will take a month and cost $400.

View BroncoBrian's profile

BroncoBrian

256 posts in 840 days


#3 posted 02-02-2013 03:32 AM

would a riving knife have prevented that? I am considering a Back saw for small boards like that to prevent the higher risk of kickback.

-- Two wrongs don’t make a right, but three rights make a left.

View runswithscissors's profile

runswithscissors

1457 posts in 907 days


#4 posted 02-02-2013 03:34 AM

I have always distrusted the push sticks that are no more than a notch in the end of a stick. If your pusher doesn’t hold down the board, the leading edge wants to climb the saw blade (strange but true, especially with short material). I only buy or make push sticks that have a significant extension going over at least 6 inches of the stock so I can hold it down at the beginning of the cut. Gives much better control, in my experience. You can make a very serviceable push stick with 1/4” (or thicker) ply. Cheap and disposable. Put a handle on that elevates your hand well above the blade.

-- I admit to being an adrenaline junky; fortunately, I'm very easily frightened

View ajosephg's profile

ajosephg

1867 posts in 2442 days


#5 posted 02-02-2013 03:48 AM

http://microjig.com/products/grr-ripper/index.shtml would have prevented that.

They also make an after market splitter

-- Joe

View MonteCristo's profile

MonteCristo

2098 posts in 1070 days


#6 posted 02-02-2013 04:05 AM

Not using a splitter is only part of what went wrong here. At 8”, the piece of melamine is too f’in short to rip safely of a TS . . .

-- Dwight - "Free legal advice available - contact Dewey, Cheetam & Howe""

View Cosmicsniper's profile

Cosmicsniper

2199 posts in 2040 days


#7 posted 02-02-2013 04:09 AM

Bingo, MC. I’m using my miter sled for that cut.

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

View steffen707's profile

steffen707

98 posts in 1175 days


#8 posted 02-02-2013 04:50 AM

Cosmicsniper and montecristo, can you point me to a good miter sled, or did you guys just make your own?

-- If you think it will take a week and cost $100, it will take a month and cost $400.

View waho6o9's profile

waho6o9

5883 posts in 1458 days


#9 posted 02-02-2013 05:06 AM

View don1960's profile

don1960

214 posts in 1568 days


#10 posted 02-02-2013 05:38 AM

I feel your pain…..literally. I think I may be the guy you’re referring to that got hit in the belly. It does happen fast doesn’t it? I have the piece hanging on my garage door (shop door) to remind me all the time not to do stupid things. Here’s a picture.

That little piece of red in the middle of the cut is my DNA. I don’t know about the shark splitter, but have heard of the microjig splitter. Seems to be popular. Bottom line, get anything to help. My solution was to finally get a new tablesaw with a riving knife (Ridgid 4512). To be fair, my other tablesaw was a piece of crap.

Oh, and I see waho609 has posted a link to cutoff sleds. Definitely make one of those. Not only safer, but makes very accurate cuts easily. Very easy to build.

-- -- Don from PA

View EEngineer's profile (online now)

EEngineer

960 posts in 2495 days


#11 posted 02-02-2013 12:25 PM

I don’t think a splitter would help in this case. Perhaps one of those splitters that curves way up over the leading edge of the saw blade would keep it from catching the teeth of the saw blade and circling back on the user?

Frankly, I don’t see how a sled would help either unless the sled has a clamp to lock down the piece as you are cutting it. It doesn’t look to me like the piece was “pinched” against the fence. As runswithscissors noted, there is always a tendency for a board to want to “climb” at the front end of the saw blade since the blade is traveling up at that point. Once it climbs a little, the teeth of the saw catch and turn the piece to throw it back at the user. The circular pattern on the bottom of this piece is pretty good evidence that is what happened. And a sled won’t help with that.

I haven’t used Grrrippers but I quite often use a featherboard on the fence to keep the stock tight against the table. I think that would have helped more in this case than a splitter or sled.

-- "Find out what you cannot do and then go do it!"

View lj61673's profile

lj61673

246 posts in 1281 days


#12 posted 02-02-2013 12:36 PM

A properly installed riving knife prevents this from happening. No other add on gimmick or hold down can do what a riving knife does.

View knotscott's profile

knotscott

6111 posts in 2257 days


#13 posted 02-02-2013 12:40 PM

A splitter is a good idea whenever possible. So is a ZCI…

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

View CharlieM1958's profile

CharlieM1958

15923 posts in 3100 days


#14 posted 02-02-2013 02:36 PM

It could have been worse…. you almost damaged your air conditioner!

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

View SamuraiSaw's profile

SamuraiSaw

494 posts in 846 days


#15 posted 02-02-2013 02:43 PM

There are folks on here that brag about having a saw for years and the splitter and guard have never been out of the package. One of the reasons I updated my saw was to gain the riving knife and an improved guard.

-- Artisan Woodworks of Texas.... www.awwtx.com

showing 1 through 15 of 34 replies

Have your say...

You must be signed in to reply.

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

HomeRefurbers.com