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02-01-2013 10:43 PM

Since a lot of the LJ’s are from England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales (?) I’ve been doing a little reading. I’m assuming the British Isles refer to everything floating off of the coast of Europe? Secondly, a lot of migration occurred from Europe, Celts, Saxons, etc and each had their own language? When did everyone adopt English? Are there still languages spoken that are not English? Are the heavy accents of the Irish and Scots a result of their original language? I could look this all up in “the bible” but I figured you guys could help alot prior to me jumping in.
Thanks,

PS – This is a serious post from the most serious part of my heart…

-- Have fun and laugh alot. Life can end at any moment. You old guys out there know that.


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#1 posted 02-01-2013 11:03 PM

The Vikings taught the Brits everthing they know to this day.

-- Thor and Odin are still the greatest of Gods.

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#2 posted 02-01-2013 11:41 PM

If you are really serious DKV, you could get a history book and learn all about the British Isles from reading what some historians wrote.

I love history me, not that I’m a boffin or anything.

As far as my understanding of it goes, pre Roman invasion, the Brits were all Celts (probably a lot of gingers in the populace).

Enter the might of Rome, Celts defeated except Welsh ones and Scottish ones who ran away to Wales, Scotland and Cornwall. One Briton heroine of note was Queen Boudica of the Icini tribe (the same tribe as Agron, from the TV series ‘Spartacus, Blood and Sand’), who defeated many Romans. Hadrian’s Wall which divides England and Scotland was built by a Roman named Hadrian to stop the Scottish Celts plundering England – now a part of the Roman Empire.

Crumble the Roman Empire, the middle ages begins, enter the Saxons to create the age of Anglo Saxons, then came the Vikings.

There was once a gay Viking King who came to conquer part of Northern England.
“Kill the women and rape the men!” he cried as they went to sack and plunder a village,
an aide corrected him, “My Lord, don’t you mean, kill the men and rape the women?”
to which the gay King replied “speak for yourself, duckie”.

This is documented somewhere, it actually happened, or it could have been one of my Dad’s bad jokes, circa 1978.

Then came the Normans, not an army that all had the name of Norman, but from the Normandy region of France. William the Conqueror owns King Harold who got an arrow in his eye as depicted in the Bayeux Tapestry.

After that there were centuries of feudalism, crop rotation and the industrial revolution. In answer to your question about when did English become the spoken language, I don’t know. Definitely before last Tuesday.
But I do know that Cornwall has it’s own (dying unfortunately) Celtic language, Welsh is it’s own language (it even has it’s own dedicated tv station) Scotland again, own dialect, and Ireland has it’s own language – Irish, begorrah! It is important to point out that Northern Ireland (six counties of the Island of Ireland) is part of the United Kingdom, whereas the Republic of Ireland is a Republic and has been since 1926.

Regional dialects can be found in all regions of the British Isles. The Scottish accent can be hard to follow, I am not going to say anything about alcoholism, but Scottish people live the most unhealthy lifestyle of anyone in Europe. Welsh people are mostly unemployed since the mines and steel works were closed by Margaret Thatcher in the 1980’s

England now is very much a multi-cultural society, the result of having an ‘empire’ stretching from the West Indies to the Far East.

English youth is disaffected, hence the disgraceful rioting of 2011, Football (Soccer) is our national game but we haven’t won anything of note since 1966. As a nation, we eat a lot of pies.

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#3 posted 02-01-2013 11:58 PM

Thanks renners.

-- Have fun and laugh alot. Life can end at any moment. You old guys out there know that.

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#4 posted 02-02-2013 12:06 AM

No problemo!

You would not fare well in England, as we all enjoy a ‘nice cup of tea’ and you can’t get kool aid.

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#5 posted 02-02-2013 12:14 AM

DKV: Try reading a book called ” A Man Called Intrepid”. Shows the UK during WWII. Pretty good stuff.

-- Thor and Odin are still the greatest of Gods.

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#6 posted 02-02-2013 12:33 AM

Renners, madts, I would enjoy something comparable to what Michener would write. I would enjoy a book that combines the history of the Isles with a good fiction story to pull it all together. James Michener had a special talent at telling a good story and teaching you history at the same time. Any ideas?

-- Have fun and laugh alot. Life can end at any moment. You old guys out there know that.

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#7 posted 02-02-2013 12:44 AM

I’ll have it ready for you in a couple of weeks DKV.

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#8 posted 02-02-2013 12:59 AM

Can that be Science Fiction?

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#9 posted 02-02-2013 01:15 AM

Dr. Who? Love it…

-- Have fun and laugh alot. Life can end at any moment. You old guys out there know that.

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#10 posted 02-02-2013 08:35 AM

Football (Soccer) is our national game but we haven’t won anything of note since 1966. As a nation, we eat a lot of pies.

Always had you down as a Cat renners.

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#11 posted 02-02-2013 09:48 AM

Murch, I have lived in Co. Kilkenny for the last 10 years, but I am as English as a pair of oven gloves with kittens on them.

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#12 posted 02-02-2013 12:24 PM

@renners, very interesting read. Thanks

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#13 posted 02-03-2013 02:06 AM

without the British people, we would all be wearing the following

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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#14 posted 02-03-2013 02:17 AM

Anyone read this?

-- Have fun and laugh alot. Life can end at any moment. You old guys out there know that.

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#15 posted 02-03-2013 02:18 AM

-- keeping myself entertained ... Humor and fun lubricate the brain

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