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Don

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01-30-2013 01:56 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question walnut finishing

A client ordered two Walnut isolation tables for his stereo amps (end grain cutting boards) and wanted a glossy finish to them. I had originally put a coat of Varathane on the bottom of one of the boards but didn’t like the look so I applied Deft Danish Oil to the rest of that board and to the second board.

After waiting 24 hours, I lightly sanded and applied a second coat of Danish Oil. This morning, I did the touch test and it feels very tacky to the touch.

Will this fix itself and dry properly after a 24 hour period or will it need to be sanded off?

I intent to use a Wipe on Poly for the final glossy finish but need the oil to set up first.

Cheers….Don

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CharlieM1958

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#1 posted 01-30-2013 02:18 PM

I would wait as much as a few days before doing anything drastic.

You will hear differing opinions on this, but personally I never use more than one application of Danish oil if I intend to come back with a topcoat. If you do, it can take a long time to cure, as you are experiencing.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#2 posted 01-30-2013 02:20 PM

Thanks Charlie….

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#3 posted 01-30-2013 02:21 PM

Patience grasshopper

+1 for Charlie

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#4 posted 01-30-2013 02:22 PM

Patience…grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :)

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#5 posted 01-30-2013 04:48 PM

I tend to let Danish oil sit for 4-5 days before i poly over the top. Stupid tacky finishes.

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Manitario

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#6 posted 01-30-2013 08:17 PM

I’ve found with Deft Danish oil that it finicky to use. My “typical” DO use is to flood the surface, wait 10 minutes and then wipe off the excess; I found with the Deft brand that this leads to the problem you are experiencing; long drying times. It works better with a couple of very thin coats, like you’d do if you’re applying wipe on poly. I did a comparison of DO brands here:
http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/2895

You can try wiping the surface of the finish with mineral spirits, that sometimes is enough to remove the tackiness. Otherwise if it doesn’t dry after a few days I’d sand it down and try again.

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shampeon

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#7 posted 01-30-2013 08:32 PM

I’ve had that happen if I apply too heavy of a coat of oil, or I don’t wipe off the 2nd application in time.

Danish oil seems to really be strict about the 1st application, wait 30 minutes, 2nd application, wait 15 minutes, wipe off all the remaining oil procedure. I fixed it by wiping with DNA and letting it dry for 24 hours before redoing the coat.

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Clint Searl

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#8 posted 01-30-2013 09:07 PM

Strip it and do it right by using a waterborne poly.

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gfadvm

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#9 posted 01-31-2013 02:42 AM

I applied shellac Immediately after applying BLO just to see what would occur. I had a dry finish in under 10 minutes. I’ve done the same over freshly applied Min Wax stains. Wouldn’t have believed it if someone told me but it works for me.

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#10 posted 01-31-2013 09:53 AM

Did you wipe off the excess when you put on the coats? If you leave too much on the surface you will end up with a gummy, sticky layer. The good new is that if you do need to sand it off it’ll be pretty easy. You could also try wiping it up with mineral spirits to see if that helps.

It will also cure faster in a warmer environment. Just do what I did and put a heater directly on the wood. It caused the finish to bleed out of the pores.

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Don

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#11 posted 01-31-2013 12:32 PM

For the second coat, I did wipe off any excess that was sitting on the boards. I checked them before coming to work today and they are much better than they were yesterday.

I will fine-sand them next, perhaps tomorrow to get the finish nice and smooth and apply WOP.

-- -- Don in Ottawa, http://www.donebydon.ca

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#12 posted 02-01-2013 06:29 PM

I applied shellac Immediately after applying BLO just to see what would occur. I had a dry finish in under 10 minutes. I’ve done the same over freshly applied Min Wax stains. Wouldn’t have believed it if someone told me but it works for me.

I tried this on some turning pieces and it works very well and leaves a nice satin, almost hand rubbed, finish.

Don, last time I used Watco on a tabletop it took days to dry; probably why I still have most of a can left.

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Don

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#13 posted 02-01-2013 06:46 PM

Well, as was suggested to me, I waited it out and sanded the Danish Oil last night using 320 grit. I wiped both boards down with Mineral Spirits and will apply the first coat of gloss WOP tonight.

I’ve never worked with shellac and not sure I want to start on a project that has been a bit of a PITA thus far.

-- -- Don in Ottawa, http://www.donebydon.ca

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gfadvm

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#14 posted 02-02-2013 01:29 AM

Rick M- Thanks for the back up. I don’t think anyone believed me!

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#15 posted 02-02-2013 06:57 AM

gf, both of these were oil immediately followed by shellac

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