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01-26-2013 08:09 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question wood id identification

Hello all. I was wondering if anyone had any insight to what this wood might be. It was sold to me as walnut by a sawyer that was going out of business who really didn’t mind what he threw into the back of my truck for $200 (which included giant 20/4 and 14/4 slabs).

So what say you, walnut?


Typical comparison of the two stacks he gave me.. the left is MUCH darker than any walnut I’ve ever seen.. the right is much lighter (but not as light as some butternut I already have)
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Compared to another walnut board
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not sure if this is some kind of fungus or spalting.. I don’t think its sapwood
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more of the discoloration
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I’m more accustomed to seeing this in maple
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End grain shot.. hard to do with a phone
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Another board.. makes for a very interesting look.

Thanks for any and all comments!

-- Dan, Rochester, NY


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#1 posted 01-26-2013 08:19 PM

butternut / white walnut nice looking wood

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#2 posted 01-26-2013 08:35 PM

I think you got spalting going on there in pictures #3 & 4. In #4 it looks the splating occurred where it was stickered. Perhaps the stickers got wet and drew moisture into the wood. Pictures #5 & 6 look like red elm to me.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#3 posted 01-26-2013 09:02 PM

I would agree with red elm for the last two.

-- Power to the people.

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#4 posted 01-26-2013 11:23 PM

2-6 are of the same board. 7 is a different board. 1 was a comparison of the different boards in the load I got

-- Dan, Rochester, NY

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#5 posted 01-26-2013 11:31 PM

Its definitely got some Spaulding. In picture 1 on the left looks like walnut. I’m not Sure of picture 7, but I’d say its spaulted, and either the edge of the log were some limbs were or a pretty small log cut.

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#6 posted 01-27-2013 04:14 AM

Bond is right. It is elm. Notice the wavy bands on pores in the latewood on the end grain shot. Very distinctive for the elm family (which includes hackberry, but the color is too dark for hackberry).

-- Danny Located in Perry, GA. Forester. Wood-Mizer LT15 Sawmill. Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln

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#7 posted 01-28-2013 04:01 AM

Thanks everyone for the input.. I just need to get my planer blades sharpened.. this stuff tears out if you even sneeze next to it

-- Dan, Rochester, NY

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#8 posted 01-29-2013 03:21 AM

Elm has spiral grain so that makes it harder to work with.

-- Danny Located in Perry, GA. Forester. Wood-Mizer LT15 Sawmill. Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln

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#9 posted 02-03-2013 04:04 AM

Hard to stay mad at a wood this finnicky when it finishes like this after a new TS blade and new planer blades:

-- Dan, Rochester, NY

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#10 posted 02-03-2013 01:15 PM

WOW!

I have changed my mind. I believe that what you have is chinaberry, not elm (99.9999% sure). Chinaberry also had wavy bands in the latewood. BTW chinaberry is in the mahogany family. Very very common in the South, where it is invasive.

Check this link for pictures and a description. I just cut down a bunch of it that I plan to saw on my sawmill.

http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/chinaberry.htm

-- Danny Located in Perry, GA. Forester. Wood-Mizer LT15 Sawmill. Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln

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#11 posted 02-03-2013 03:44 PM

Wow.. yeah that looks like the stuff.. but the sawyer that I bought it from was in Hemlock NY (great town name, right?) Either way.. its gorgeous stuff and I couldn’t be happier with it. The new planer blades turned the surface to glass… That gnarly grain direction/tearout was no match

-- Dan, Rochester, NY

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#12 posted 02-05-2013 03:41 AM

Chinaberry is absolutely beautiful. I will be sawing about 1,000 BF in the next few weeks. I will post a pic. I have about 150 BF that is air dried. People like it when they see it.

-- Danny Located in Perry, GA. Forester. Wood-Mizer LT15 Sawmill. Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln

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#13 posted 02-05-2013 04:33 AM

elm or ash

if it came from the planer unscathed its probably ash

the brown one, guessing walnut or butternut

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#14 posted 02-05-2013 05:28 AM

Hey cut off a 6” chunk and then take a hatchet to it.

If it splits easily, it is likely ash.

If yu gotta work to split it, and you see the grain intertangled it is likely elm

I ain;t familiar with the chinaberry nomenclature, but elm is hard to split, ash splits easily.

BTW it looks like ash to me!

-- Real_cowtown_eric

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#15 posted 02-05-2013 06:22 AM

Here’s a site where you can check it out and be sure. http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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