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Don_Hoke

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446 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: walker turner band saw cast iron

I am restoring a 1925 Stanley Steam Car with a sedan body. It has a wooden frame and aluminum skin.

I’d like to acquire an older, high grade band saw, and research suggests that the Walker Turner band saw is particularly good. I like the idea of a lot of cast iron for stability.

I just missed a wood/metal cutting Walker Turner (16” throat) on Craig’s List here in Dallas.

Any suggestions on locating such a band saw would be greatly appreciated.

I travel to the east coast about three times per year.

Very best wishes!

Don


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Loren

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#1 posted 446 days ago

Do you require slower-speed function for cutting metal?

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#2 posted 445 days ago

Old Delta’s are also very good. Parts and accessories are not hard to find.

You might find something here: http://owwm.org

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Surfside

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#3 posted 445 days ago

Try with www.vintagemachinery.org
Walker Turner 16” band saw is a beast.

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#4 posted 445 days ago

You and me both, brother.

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Don_Hoke

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#5 posted 445 days ago

Good Evening, Gentlemen!

I found a 16” Walker Turner in very nice shape. It will be in the garage by tomorrow afternoon if all goes well.

I’ll post a photo when it gets here.

Best wishes!

Don

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#6 posted 445 days ago

In case you are still looking, though you would have to arrange shipping:
http://dayton.craigslist.org/tls/3555600689.html

(Not mine, just remember it was on our local CL)

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Don W

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#7 posted 445 days ago

Oh yea. I wouldn’t trade mine, http://lumberjocks.com/donwilwol/blog/31577

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#8 posted 445 days ago

Good Evening Once Again, Gentlemen!

I know that the blade carried by my Walker Turner 16” band saw is about 114” – 115.” This is a single speed band saw with its original motor. I have not yet calculated the

How wide should my blade be and how many teeth per inch and should it be a constant pitch blade or a variable pitch blade.

Most of what I will be cutting for the steam car project will be white oak, perhaps 3” thick at most.

As does every novice, I am running around the web trying to learn things. I have found blades that cut both wood and the occasional metal. There is one small metal cutting blade with the band saw.

I see urethane tires from $34 to $50. What is the difference or is there a difference?

Thanks again for your advice. We newbies need all the help we can get!

Very best wishes!

Don

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#9 posted 444 days ago

I paid $35 for a set of new tires. They work very well and seem to be holding up just fine.

I’m using a 1” lenex resaw blade, 3 tpi. I just ordered 2 more. Links are in my blog.

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#10 posted 444 days ago

Dear Don W:

Thanks for the advice. I’ll be putting my credit card number into the computer within the hour.

I did find the links on your blog. They were very helpful. Thank you!

I am not going to be re-sawing 4” thick slabs of lumber as you do. A 1” blade with three teeth per inch sound a bit heavy for my use.

My Packard friend picks me up at 1:00 PM with his pickup truck. The WT should be on the garage floor by dinner time.

Very best wishes!

Don Hoke

PS Fly With The Eagles! But always remember, weasels never get sucked into jet engines.
Don

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#11 posted 443 days ago

Good Morning, Gentlemen!

The partial dis-assembly and transport of my Walker Turner band saw (nicknamed “THE BEAST” – Thanks, Surfside!) went with out a hitch. My Packard friend’s pickup truck was all we needed. Sadly, I neglected to take photographs before we disassembled and loaded it, but here are some shots of it in the garage beside The BettyAnne’s chassis.

The seller originally told me it was “sort of in pieces,” so I visited thinking I would look at The Beast and learn and was not interested in finishing someone else’s project. It was, in fact all together with the exception of the table and the saw guides. We spent 20 minutes putting it all back together, including the angle bracket and guide, with the exception of the table. All the hardware was with the saw.

The “serial number” on the Walker Turner emblem is 22-639, which, according to various web sites, is really a model number not a serial number.

I originally planned to get The Beast running and worry about the cosmetics later. However, since it is now in pieces, I think I have decided to visit my local sand blaster. Yes, I Kroiled the machine screws last night, although everything came apart without complaining when we picked it up.

Although the motor runs nicely, it is 65 years old and I suspect that a visit to my motor repair shop will insure that I am not in the middle of a cut when it fails.

What is your opinion of having it converted to 220 from the 110 it now uses? More power, but a new long cable to the 220 outlet.

Colors: I assume a battleship gray. Did the Art Deco vertical stripes carry a color such as red?

There is no fence with the saw. What do you woodworking Einsteins recommend? I’ve seen a couple of new fences on the web. What advice do you have for getting the right one for this saw. There are holes in the side of the tale to mount something like this.

The new tires are in the mail. I still need advice on blades.

Great, just what I need! A new project! Well, I have to look at the bright side. It doesn’t need any wood work.

Very best wishes!

Don

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#12 posted 443 days ago

As for the red vertical stripes, mine is still the original color, and I haven’t seen any yet with a red stripe. I just gave mine a good brushing and a coat of BLO.

I starting using the Lenox blades because of a recommendation of another LJ. If you go with a 1” you’ll need to open up the slot in the lower door some. Other than that it works great. My saw is set up for re-sawing, but I do a lot of ripping as well. If your ripping 3” oak ( i think that’s what I read) its the perfect setup

Mine doesn’t have a fence either. I built a fence for my 14” grizzly, but for the WT I’ve just been using a wood fence clamped in place. I may eventually look for a fence, but right now its working just fine.

I didn’t have my motor checked out and it seems to be working great, but yours has a bit more rust than mine did, and it wouldn’t be a bad idea. 220 is more efficient, but mine is still 110 and I don’t have issues. I’ve ripped 9” oak, and although slow, its doable. I will upgrade to a 3 or 5 hp if I ever come across such a motor at a reasonable price.

Oddly enough, my motor hangs off the back instead of the lower mount. I have yet to determine what the difference is. The guard swings to either. If you happen to discover what the difference was, I’d be interested to hear.

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#13 posted 443 days ago

Beware that WT used proprietary bearings in their machines. An exact replacement will be difficult to obtain. I would highly recommend searching for and replacing the bearings. Lynne at Accurate bearing may be able to track down a few but they will be costly. I know this from restoring a Walker Turner TA1180B table saw a few years ago. The motor is fairly simple and should not require a trip to a motor shop. The bearings are easily obtainable and easily replaced. You might also consider replacing the capacitor at the same time. McMaster Carr will have suitable caps at reasonable prices.
As for another option there is :
Walker-Turner Serviced Machinery, LLC
P.O. Box 666
Coventry, CT 06238-1657

WTSMLLC@Juno.com

They do carry some of the original WT parts, however be prepared to pay dearly. Good luck. There is also a paint mix data sheet on the wiki portion of vintage machinery showing the correct paint and mix for factory color.

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Don_Hoke

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#14 posted 435 days ago

Good Morning, Gentlemen!

The Beast is coming along very nicely. If all goes well, I’ll finish painting the interior parts this afternoon and begin assembly in a day or so. It came back from the sand blaster on Friday and Saturday. He welded on the little tab that had broken off decades ago. I did find a small crack in one of the base castings, but I think (hope?) it will not spread.

The Beast now has a full coat of primer, actually several coats.

I used Lowe’s standard gray paint. I decided against “Tractor Green” and the other green they had and went with something close to the original. If this were being restored for the Consours de Elegance de Band Saws, i’d have been a bit more particular about the color. The Beast will, however, live in the garage and be a working band saw.

The new tires have arrived and the new Lenox blades are in the mail. Yes, it is a 115” blade. I took the advice of the salesman and bought a 1/2” blade with 14/18 variable teeth. It should do about 99.83546% of what I need. I have an old power hack saw for bigger metal things.

Once the paint dries, assembly starts on Tuesday or Wednesday. I’ll keep you posted.

If anyone has a spare belt guard to share, please let me know. I also need a miter gauge and the slide for the table.

I am also researching fences.

Thanks again for all your help. You have taught me a great deal and I do appreciate that very much!

Don Hoke

Honest Don’s Used Steam Car Emporium

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#15 posted 435 days ago

looking good so far. that’s a nice saw

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