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555 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: antique plane identification drp

I saw two really unusual planes while browsing an out-of-the-way antiques shop today. Can you help? First plane: A really weird plane marked #3, though it seemed a tad smallish for a #3. It was marked ”DRP& Co.” on the topside of the sole, ahead of the tote. Then I noticed the back of the frog was marked “Germany” in that creepy font often seen on highway signs in Germany. I had the feeling it was early 20th century, but does anyone have an idea what this plane is? Second item: A Union plane, no other markings except for lever cap, only 8 1/2 inches long, Could this be the model sometimes presented on eBay as a ‘Union #2’?
Each of these were marked $25, and looked like they spent eternity in a damp basement.
I did bring home an equally rusty #4 1/2 Stanley plane, however. It will go into the ‘corral’ until I get some unfettered liesure time to spend on some restoration work.
Any opinions on the other two orphans above? Thx in advance!!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!


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Joe Lyddon

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#1 posted 555 days ago

I can’t help you…

That one really Cries Out… “Restore Me”...

... please…

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#2 posted 555 days ago

Thanks, Joe!
I hope I’m not somehow putting you personally on the spot, when I post queries like this! HAGD!!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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Don W

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#3 posted 555 days ago

I’ve never heard of DRP& Co. so I hope you find an answer. I don’t have a lot of Union info either, but if it is a #2 size, you probably should go back and get it for $25.

The #4 1/2 does need some love.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#4 posted 555 days ago

Thanks, Don!
The 4 1/2 has two patent dates, I haven’t researched it yet but I believe it’s early. The tote sits up high on a pedestal. I’ve got it apart now, there’s some chips and cracks in the sole, it could be a user but not minty restoration material. I’ll have to see if there are any Union #2s on eBay, and what they measure out to. It’s really narrow, I’ve got to remember to keep a tape measure, and the cell phone camera with me when we go plundering.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#5 posted 555 days ago

If planes could tell stories. That poor plane looks like it spent more than a couple decades unloved. Interesting to see you bring it back for a second chance.

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#6 posted 555 days ago

Might a #2. My Union #3 is 9-1/8” long. Just a hair over 2” wide.

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#7 posted 554 days ago

Of course, i also know someone whom doesn’t mind bringing them back from the dead, either.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#8 posted 554 days ago

Poopie...
No problem here…

HAGD ???

Interesting…

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#9 posted 554 days ago

Thanks, everyone, for the great replies! Don: Yeah, that Union will never move from its spot until somebody around here, who’s not daunted by a total rusty rehab, comes by and takes it home. Maybe me, maybe somebody else. I did notice a chip out of the rear sole overhang, where it supports the tote but raised a bit above the sole. It was in a consignment area of the antique shop, where the possibility of making a counter-offer is tedious. Shane: The 4 1/2 will be the receiver of ‘hand-me-downs from when I re-hab my two Stanleys which are sound but need the full treatment. Has anyone converted a 4 1/2 to a scrub? Bandit: I’m surprised that this Union does not have a numerical designation. I was worried that somebody slapped a Union lever cap on a generic plane, but what about that weird length??? 8 1/2 inches across the sole, you’re right, it’s gotta be something, and if I don’t use my own knowledge (or intuition) for spotting a rarity I might as well hang it up!
Verdict is in… I’m just gonna buy those two, and put them in the corral, for when the day comes that I can set up my plane hospital and make some good users out this old iron pile I got. Joe: HAGD translates to Have a Good Day!!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#10 posted 554 days ago

Most of the Unions in my stable, only one has UNION cast into the base, right behind the tote. The older ones have a right hand threaded adjuster wheel. Also check the lateral.

Union meeting?

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#11 posted 554 days ago

Thanks, Bandit! Appreciate the time you spent putting together the Union meeting! I tried to absorb as many of the details for both planes, not having a camera with me. As I recall, the lateral adjuster, the piece that engages the slot in the cutter, was hexagonal in shape, not round. It rotated (presumably) on the peened rivet that attached it to the lat lever. That does it, I gotta go buy these two now. This shop is closed on Sundays, it’ll have to be during the week. I’ll have some pics and details once they come home to my stable. Thanks again, Bandit, and all those who responded! I really like the weird planes! The research continues.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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Don W

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#12 posted 554 days ago

if your looking for some Union information, I have several links posted on my refernce blog, http://lumberjocks.com/donwilwol/blog/24091

If you find any I have not post them so I can too. I could never find a plane reference size chart for union.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#13 posted 553 days ago

I just saw a “hex” adjuster, on a “Victory” jack plane. It ended with a union style end, but the rest was six-sided. Looked like it was forged flat.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#14 posted 552 days ago

bandit: Is ‘Victory’ one of those Stanley reincarnations? I’m going to that antique shop tomorrow after work, for the Union and DRP&Co planes. Pics soon. It’s hard to get motivated with a wind-chill temperature of -41, I’m serious. Thanks again for your help and participation.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#15 posted 552 days ago

I think this is what you’re talkin’ about Poopie..


(KICKER-Snow-No-Mail)

There’s an old saying that neither snow nor rain will keep postal workers from finishing the job.

Except in Winnipeg—where bitter wind chills of Minus-40 meant the mail didn’t get delivered to about 18-thousand homes.

John Caines of Canada Post says postal carriers have great parkas and can usually stop in places along their route to warm up.

But he says that just wasn’t enough to battle the kind of cold felt in southern Manitoba yesterday.
(with thanks to Canadian Press ;-)
I’ve hitchhiked in that temperature, YUK !

-- Glen, Vernon B.C. Canada

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