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Forum topic by Lalaland posted 09-07-2008 12:04 AM 2182 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Lalaland

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09-07-2008 12:04 AM

As a hand tool user, er … beginner …. I have come to realize that I “need” a jointer plane. I had a Record #8, but didn’t like it. Was thinking of having a wooden one made, either Japanese or Western. But as I began to look at different makers, the money thing hit me. Unfortunately, the money tree needs more Vigoro and not doing well. So I’ve had to research a little to spend wisely. Here is what I’ve come up with so far:

Ishihisa Brand Joiner Plane (Hida Tools) 196.00
Yokosaka Brand Tengyosei Joiner Plane: 398.00
Jointer Plane by E.C. Emmerich 169.95
Lie Nielson No. 8 Jointer Plane $475.00
Clark and Williams Jointer 425.00
HNT Gordon Try Plane 375.40

Or I could look into older Stanley’s and tune them up myself, etc etc etc. Or find one already tuned and ready.

Now obviously from the standpoint of price alone, the ECE would be a good buy, or the Japanese, (I have a Japanese smoother which I like). From the standpoint of name, certainly the Clark and Williams or Lie Nielson would be good. I’m not really into tuning up an old Stanley, as I am leaning heavily toward wooden planes. But I guess one should never rule out a Lie Nielson. Of course if I won the lotto, I’d be knocking on Wayne Anderson’s mailbox.

My thought process is going something like this: Should I spend the money on a really top notch jointer that will give me superior service? Or should I save money on a really top of the line smoother, since that would be the step after the jointer?

Maybe my thoughts are out of tune. Any thoughts from others?

Thanks in advance?

David


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Chris

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#1 posted 09-07-2008 01:36 AM

I have a very old Stanley #8 type-4 It’s pretty good but I would go with a bedrock #608 or the L&N #8 (patterned after the 608).

-- "Everything that is great and inspiring is created by the individual who labors in freedom" -- Albert Einstein

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jcees

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#2 posted 09-07-2008 02:18 AM

I’ve been using Bed Rocks and type 11-13 Stanleys for years. Honestly, I don’t see that much difference in performance once you get any of them ”tuned.” Currently, I use a type 13 #7 smooth sole. After tuning the plane, I upgraded the iron to a Hock and a Clifton Stay-Set cap iron. The stiffer blade matched with a stiffer chipbreaker really showed me how well the plane could work and I use it on every project including upside-down! Check it out here…

http://lumberjocks.com/jocks/jcees/blog/4145

If you’ve got the dough, go for a Lie-Nielsen as they’re ready to rock right out of the box. Older Stanley’s are still available and can be had for a fair price even on eBay. I sold a #8 and a fixer-upper #608 a few weeks ago for under $100 each. A tuneup and $65 dollars more for a new iron and chipbreaker and either of them will take .001” shavings easily. I did however find my first Bed Rock at a flea market. Schweet!

I’ve also got a type 3 #608 with corrugated sole to tune up. I want to slightly camber the iron for the purpose of smoothing my bench top. I’ll blog the tuneup process as soon as the weather cools a bit. Till then, enjoy your search.

always,
J.C.

-- When one tugs at a single thing in nature, he finds it attached to the rest of the world. -- John Muir

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gusthehonky

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#3 posted 09-07-2008 03:48 AM

Have you considered the LN LA Jointer $350. I own the jack and am very pleased with it. There is a description of it listed under “block planes” on the LN web Page. It is in that group because it is bevel up.

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Doug S.

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#4 posted 09-07-2008 01:58 PM

Another vote for the LV BU Jointer (with the extra steeper angle irons as well). It works great even on harder/figured wood.
But for < $100, I’ve also got a lowly Anant (not even the newer/improved Kamal version) that does a pretty respectable job.

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#5 posted 09-07-2008 08:09 PM

You didn’t really tell us why you didn’t like the Record. That makes it hard to recommend anything else.

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Lalaland

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#6 posted 09-07-2008 11:26 PM

The record was not flat at all, hard to adjust and would not hold an edge. Could be remedied, but got a bad taste for it, let it sit around for years ( I wasn’t doing woodwork then either), then sold it.

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marcb

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#7 posted 09-08-2008 01:05 AM

I bought an old Ohio Tool Co. No 7 off of ebay and spent a few hours working on it. Works pretty good.

Veritas and Lie Neilson are going to be the few all cast iron planes that don’t need some initial outlay of time and effort to get a good plane.

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