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Jeff Waggoner

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462 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: jig tip question walnut clamp bandsaw shaping traditional

This is a follow up to my Steambending Fail! Post a few weeks ago. I got a lot of great advise and I think I tried most of it. First of all I was out of air-dried wood so I had to switch to kiln dried. First we added to the form to make the inside curve less sharp. We resawed and planed four strips to 1/8 inch. We steamed them for about 20 mins each. We bent them around the form one on top of the other and let them dry for 24 hrs.

When we removed the clamps they sprung back much further than I expected. This concerned me so we tried the hot pipe bending the some had suggested. I had two problems with this. One it was not something I was comfortable letting an 11 year old do and second it was imposable for get them to all bend the same to glue them back up.

We ended up filling the bathtub up with hot water and soaking the strip to flatten them back out.

We then re-steamed them and re-bent then around the form.

This time it worked like a charm. We then made the mistake of not giving them time to completely dry out be for we glued them and re-clamped them. They looked great when we removed the clamps but then gaps started appearing where the glue was failing from the moisture. We put CA glue over the gaping areas and re-clamped those areas. That worked but the other area would open up so we had to do that about three times. Lesson learned (the hard way.) After all that I was very happy with how it turned out. Jaida is entering it in the Project Showcase at the Indianapolis Woodworking show this weekend.

-- Jeff Waggoner, http://www.planeoldwood.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/Plane-Old-Wood/170375656316338


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#1 posted 462 days ago

Awesome Jeff. Congrats to both of you on your success. Thank you for your posting an update. Just out of curiosity, when you flattened and rebent, did you move in the same direction or did you bend the other way to fully stretch out all the fibers?

-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.

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Jeff Waggoner

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#2 posted 462 days ago

We bent it the same way. I didn’t think about trying the other way but after all that would had been through at that point it bent like butter.

-- Jeff Waggoner, http://www.planeoldwood.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/Plane-Old-Wood/170375656316338

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David Craig

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#3 posted 462 days ago

Great to hear Jeff. I am sure we will get more updates of some cool bending in the future.

-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.

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Loren

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#4 posted 462 days ago

Cool.

You’re saying the bend held tighter the second time?

Where did you get the action for the piano?

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Gshepherd

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#5 posted 462 days ago

Love it when a plan comes together and being persistant sure did help. I am sure we all appreciate your reposting the results. Many times advise is given and we never know the final outcome. Thanks for the update.

-- What we do in life will Echo through Eternity........

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#6 posted 462 days ago

Beautiful piano.

-- Jesse, Saint Louis, Missouri

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jap

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#7 posted 462 days ago

lovely work

-- Joel

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Jeff Waggoner

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#8 posted 462 days ago

Loren,
Yes the second time there was much less spring back.
We bought a toy piano on line and dissembled it and she cut away everything but the keyboard.

-- Jeff Waggoner, http://www.planeoldwood.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/Plane-Old-Wood/170375656316338

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Whitewalls

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#9 posted 462 days ago

That looks terrific!!

-- Jared, Northern IL

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Jeff Waggoner

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#10 posted 462 days ago

Thanks everyone for you kind word. I is so great for amateurs like us to have a place to get great advice from to people who know what they are talking about. We will be posting the completed piano and a project with many more picture as soon as we can.

-- Jeff Waggoner, http://www.planeoldwood.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/Plane-Old-Wood/170375656316338

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Straightbowed

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#11 posted 462 days ago

that a nice job on the pianer it looks great

-- Stevo, work in tha city woodshop in the country

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#12 posted 288 days ago

This is very cool, and very helpful too! Nice job Jeff and Jaida!

-- Gary - Carson City, NV - "Every man looks upon his wood pile with a sort of affection." — Henry David Thoreau

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#13 posted 287 days ago

Looks good.

And yes, it wouldn’t have hurt to give those boards more time to dry. I typically do bending at the very beginning of a project then let the parts sit for a couple weeks while I work on everything else. Of course with kiln-dried wood you’d be liable to end up with spring back anyway so I’m not sure how much benefit a longer dry time would have provided.

The reason why the wood was failing in the S curve probably had less to do with the severity of the curve than the fact that the curve was going the opposite direction. That means the backup strap was no longer compressing the wood but was instead allowing it to stretch. Wood doesn’t like to stretch so it’s important to force it into compression.

-- See my work at http://remmertstudios.com and http://altaredesign.com

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