What is the likely hood that this is all original?

here is some info on Keen Kutter.

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I’ve seen a good number of planes that look like new on e-bay.

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It might very well be all original. Different makers would make tools for Shipleigh Hardware, and then were sold as Keen Kutter Tools. About like Craftsman is today. Base and frog look like Stanley style parts for their “off-brand” planes. If you can, check the threads of the bolts, they might be Stanley bolts. No biggie, I have a KK7, with a UNION frog on it, and a DE6 ( Diamond Edge was another of their lines) had a Union frog. Maybe certain years, Union made them, other years, Stanley did.

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Thanks to all, it works fine, everything seems to go together as it should.. gonna give it the once over and use and abuse it…. Papa

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That is a Sargent plane.

So when did Sargent start making planes for E. C. Simmons? I have been told and have read that Stanley and later the Ohio tool company made the planes for both Simmons as Keen Kutter and Shipleah under the Diamond edge brand. Did Sargent make them after Ohio ran its course?.. I have not been able to find out exactly who and when this plane was manufactured.. I know that I have seen other KeenKutter planes with the frog numbered 409 like mine.. also understand that it was not until later in production that the KeenKutter logo was placed on the lever caps.. So the hunt continues.. anyone else have anything for me?>??... What year would you think for manufacture.. 1950’s maybe?? thanks.. Papa

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I’ve not found a difinitive reference for KK tools.
Simmons/Shaplege Hdw used various mfgrs to produce tools under different “brand” names.

Is that a 409 number cast into the frog?
Sometimes the lateral adjust will give a clue as to maker.
Lateral lever looks like a Sargent.

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That is a 409 in the frog, and there are no markings on the lateral adjustment lever.. it ends in a small circle… if that helps.. thanks.. Papa

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between the lat adjuster and the “409” stamp, I’d be inclined to think Sargent as well.

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According to this l, The single ‘K’ series were Bedrock styled planes, made by Stanley. The ‘KK’ series were mostly made by Sargent and Ohio.

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I would say that is a frankenplane. Keen Kutter parts on a Sargent plane. I have both styles of KK planes, but neither one has that plane soul. Still, should be a pretty nice and functional plane. Those KK irons are really nice—the thickest of the vintage metal-body planes.

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After seeing the photos I have to agree with the others.. That is def a Sargent made plane.

My guess is the body and frog are part of a Sargent plane and someone added the Keen Kutter blade and cap iron. I have never seen a KK plane that looks like this one.

As for manufacture date. That style Sargent body/frog would be a lot earlier then 1950’s.

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thanks much guys, I have finished restoring it to very nice condition.. will shoot up a couple pics shortly,,, It is a very nice plane to work with.. works very well.. thanks for all the info.,.. don’t mind the frankenplane at all… Papa..

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Well thought I would shoot up a couple shots of the KeenKutter in all its glory…this is after its ride down the restoration hi-way..bye the bye,, she is a fine working plane and is a great addition to my collection..

thanks for looking… Papa

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sweet!!

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